[Retribution]

yeah gmod has a good following, and is recognized by steam, unlike you guys :lol:

[larz]

Why would they rather have NO sourceop rather than a possibly buggy one? All you are doing by not releasing it is making people ignore it harder, which I thought was a brilliant feat.

And if it does bug, crash, lag, manufacture biological weapons, explode THAN HELL, maybe we will get some new forum members, and perhaps you could just put a BETA tag on it and use it to get feedback on the errors, and diagnose more bugs than you could possibly fix yourself... just a thought.

By the way, making something harder to use isn't a bad thing, it filters out morons. And if we release a buggy hard-to-use version all we will have left is smart people, and therefore will have upgraded our fanbase.

ok i have to disagree with you on "don't make it easy to use"

Yeh their are alot of ignorant people out their, and you know, they will probably remain that way unless they learn from somewhere. If sop is easy to use and understand, people won't give up after trying to get it working for hours =/

What they learn from sop, can be used with other plugins, and the education continues, so on and so on.

Which leads to ignorant/stupid people becoming smart, which makes sop insanely popular, becuase those stupid ppl will tell their stupid friends!!!!

We will be educating the internetz!!!

BTW their are alot more dumb ppl out their, than their are smart ones , keep that in mind when you think of a target audience for sop

EASY FTW!!!

[OmegaZero_Alpha]

First of all, I was joking. the joke being making it more complicated and the punchline being the "upgrade our fanbase".

Second, If it were easy to use why would they spend hours figuring it out?

Third, Ignorant people are people who are incapable of learning (almost by definition) and are therefore always ignorant

NOTE: I was NOT joking about releasing it in it's current state, I would rather get some experience with a buggy-beta so that I can get used to all of the features while they are still a pain in the ass. It is like how I forced myself to learn DOS before I let myself use windows and am now great because if it... If you let great people (like myself) have irritating betas than when they find women as great as them then we will be that much smarter, and that much closer to the MASTER RACE....

[larz]

I was saying, if sop was easy to use then people would not have to spend hours figuring it out.

[Naquadria]

Sop is easy to use...

[larz]

Sop is easy to use...

needs to be EEZ..R!!!

[Retribution]

dude, if sop was any easyer, it would be T3 all over agian
it's just that you don't have enough of an attention span to keep with it an learn how to use it, althought i must admit that the whole admin acess level insane equation thing is a little beyond me

[OmegaZero_Alpha]

exponential powers of 2 are so insane, im amazed people figured them out?

[Retribution]

i just plain don't understand, if i had several examples, maybe i could figure it out, also it seems like the system won't let you like say, this admin can ban but not kick, this admin can kick but not ent, and the admin can chose new admins but nothing else

[OmegaZero_Alpha]

If I remember correctly you can set those powers up separately from the rank system...