[WombRaider]

i only got through the first sentence before i was bored

im not reading that novel

especially since i'm sure it's full of flat out lies.

[WombRaider]

But following me around to different sites posting lies kinda says a lot about you.

lol?

[sdogg2m]

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[infinite-]

I don't blame you "wombraider/preteenslut".

The truth hurts.

[Fixhotep]

heh...

[WombRaider]

WHAT DO YOU NEED TO PROMOTE FOR YOU HAVE OVER 200 TEAMS WITH LIKE 18 MEMBERS EACH!!



oh wait you have 193, and 56 of those dont even have the required 9 players, and at least 25% of the rest of them probably wont even play, then you'll have another round of dropouts after they lose a couple, then you have to take into account all those teams that are just still on there from previous seasons and i'll bet you get maybe 80 teams participating total, which i guess explains why you're on here promoting this league that is full of the worst administrators i've ever seen in my life

and when i say worst i mean it in the sense that the decisions they make are dismal, and the "holier than thou" attitude they take when "considering" suggestions from their community is completely unprofessional

[WombRaider]

small updates:

the admins have injected the map "swiftwater" into the map rotation for this season despite promises that the map would not be on the rotation again since it was played two seasons in a row. the map itself was created for a 16v16 environment and was terrible for 9v9 play. however, one of the administrators (infinite) is in love with the map and insists that it be played even though a large number of the players in the league think the map is garbage. It doesnt help much that the map has "been specifically redesigned for UGC." The map is fundamentally flawed, and no amount of revisions can salvage it.

another thing that has been happening is that threads which violate no league rules, aren't inflammatory, derogative, or negative in any way are being deleted by admins if they are made by people that certain admins don't like.
(i'm referring to Fixxer, the creator of this thread, deleting topics by people he doesn't like)




so if you think you'd enjoy childish and terrible administration which only gets worse as time goes on, by all means sign up and play for this league

[WombRaider]

update on admin attitudes toward players


12:49 PM - I N F I N I T E -: just read your forum post
12:49 PM - I N F I N I T E -: i appreciate your opinions, but you continually try and bring us down
12:49 PM - I N F I N I T E -: so please dont converse with me anymore
12:49 PM - I N F I N I T E -: if you need league assistance
12:49 PM - I N F I N I T E -: send an email to tf2@ugcleague.com
12:49 PM - I N F I N I T E -: tired of dealing with your bullshit

those messages were sent in response to this posting on the UGC forums offering legitimate suggestions:
http://www.ugcleague.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10187

[WombRaider]

further developing drama:

Swiftwater and follower were two of the top voted maps. Therefore they were put in. I'm not understanding what you're talking about in this instance. But you are going on the fact that we just chose randomly and ignored the votes? We in fact went 98% on the votes and didnt add in any random maps this time around.

once again an administrator comes forward and exposes himself as either a liar or completely detached from the actual community he is supposed to serve. The members of the league have been told multiple times that swiftwater would not be included in the map rotation since it has been played for a few seasons in a row. it was intentionally left off of the polls because they already knew they were going to bypass the community and put it in, despite it being a broken and terrible excuse for a map.

infinites post in that thread is again a perfect example of the kind of attitude you can expect there, not to mention full of yet more lies. any attempt to expose the truth is quickly censored by the admins there in order to maintain that everyone agrees with them.

infinite has said that he takes the "testing team" very seriously. he says that the testing team takes part in determining what weapons shoudl and shouldn't be banned. So he posts this:

Hi All,

After as much thought and playtesting we could fit into our schedules, here is the season 6 weapon ban list.

(Every weapon NOT on this list is ALLOWED)

1. No Full Class Set Bonuses from Item Sets
2. Pomson 6000
3. Philogistinator
4. Holiday Punch
5. Reserve Shooter
6. The Enforcer
7. Machina
8. Bombinomicon

Any new weapons released during the course of a season are NOT allowed, unless ok'd by admins & team leaders.

TENTATIVE ALLOW/PRESEASON TEST:
Detonator

I would like to get some feedback on the detonator. Please use our pre season match to try it out and post in this thread your thoughts on how it will affect gameplay.

Enjoy

INF

Notice the bolded section.

here's what one of the members of the testing team had to say

Also as far as I know, infinite was the only one from the testing group who wanted it banned

When people presented arguments on why the detonator should NOT be banned, infinite had these things to say:

Everyone's entitled to their opinion =]

Of course the pyro's want everything in =]

Everyone's got their opinion =]

and when asked why he thought he weapon should be banned he said this:

Detonator Pros:
1. Easier to catch multiple people on fire with manual det of flare.
2. Destroys Sticky bombs
3. Enables det-jump allowing pyro's to reach new places (roofs on ashville for instance).
4. Still gives "flareshots", just minicrits now.
5. Flares detonate on impact, potentially catching more targets on fire.

Base/Afterburn is same as regular flare.

Cons:
1. Does not full crit on burning target.
2. ?
3. ?

Which i find extremely funny because that same type of formula was applied to the wrangler (more effectively, even), yet he would not even consider banning the wrangler.

Infinite is running the league, make no mistake. the guy has basically full control. in the thread posted earlier, he accuses sdogg of whining and crying because sdogg doesn't get his way. What should be happening is that the league itself should be whining and crying that infinite ALWAYS gets his way, and the rest of the league disagrees with him.

Infinite quotes sdogg as saying "?? sdogg2m - CommFT: I am not budging on this one" and then proceeds to tell him that "it doesn't help his case"
What he fails to realize is that he is saying the exact same thing here:

Team leads pick 80% of the maps, admins pick 20%. That's been true last year and this year. I don't know how many more times we have to tell you this before you understand.

and here:

This isn't going to be up for a vote.

it goes without saying that any posts anyone makes on the forums that contain snippets of steam conversations with infinite are hastily deleted because they are "private in nature" yet he has no problem posting his own snippets.

Unfortunately, any posts on the forums critical of the league or the administrators is quickly deleted, and often the poster is banned for "inflammatory remarks."

The post was much more inappropriate and outright immature in its original form, however you should take note of this at the bottom of the post:

Last edited by infinite-; Today at 03:59 PM

There are many more issues that can be raised out of that one post, but to be honest I lack the energy to deal with this clown and the rest of his puppetshow of a staff right now.

[ibby]

get a life shitlord