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Problem With an Admin
#1

I personally think that Butane has been abusing his powers in the TF2 Prop Hunt server. Recently, he gagged a bunch of players because of one mic spammer. I'm not saying he needs demoted, but he does need to chill out a bit with his admin powers. I've also heard similar complaints about Butane, such as banning players for ghosting when they were on BLU team (which, according to other admins, such as Dopp, to name one, is allowed). I don't know how true that one is, but I've heard several people mention it.

I do not intend this to disrespect Butane, but I am not happy with his abuse of power. I would ask that he only use his powers on those who deserve it and not on individuals at random.
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#2

shut up, fuck off, read these

http://forums.sourceop.com/threads/11476...s-and-FAQs

take special note of the last one

The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State.
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#3

I told everyone to shutup, I gagged everyone who did not shutup after the last warning given.

START OF LOG
[10/05/2013 19:54:45] ElectronicFerret: the only way to win is to suck less
[10/05/2013 19:54:46] Mr.Tacocat.: I LOVE THIS MAP
[10/05/2013 19:54:46] Knopp: ^^
[10/05/2013 19:54:48] Golden Indian: ohh ok
[10/05/2013 19:55:24] Mr.Tacocat.: Just kidding, I don't know this map
[10/05/2013 19:55:30] dopefish: please spray loli again
[10/05/2013 19:55:34] [LAZY] Good News, Everyone!: Sssssshhhhhhhhh!
[10/05/2013 19:55:35] Sir Tank: stop
[10/05/2013 19:55:35] Mr.Tacocat.: SSSSHHHHH!
[10/05/2013 19:55:39] GuyDeAwesome: status
[10/05/2013 19:55:39] [Ðrift?rs] Ruffe: !votemute
[10/05/2013 19:55:40] ??Shane B.I.T.W?? Live: SH
[10/05/2013 19:55:43] ??Shane B.I.T.W?? Live: STIOP
[10/05/2013 19:55:52] *DEAD* GuyDeAwesome: what map is this
[10/05/2013 19:55:54] EVoLve: votekick
[10/05/2013 19:55:59] *DEAD* GuyDeAwesome: like the name?
[10/05/2013 19:56:08] *DEAD* Golden Indian: hahahahha
[10/05/2013 19:56:10] *DEAD* platnumtiger1: indian your glasses
[10/05/2013 19:56:15] (ADMIN) Butane: shutup
[10/05/2013 19:56:15] *DEAD* [LAZY] Good News, Everyone!: Epic taunt kill
[10/05/2013 19:56:15] *DEAD* Golden Indian: lol
[10/05/2013 19:56:17] Mr.Tacocat.: SSSHHHHH OR THEY'LL FIND USSS
[10/05/2013 19:56:19] *DEAD* dark assassin: stupid red team
[10/05/2013 19:56:21] (ADMIN) Butane: shutup
[10/05/2013 19:56:32] *DEAD* dark assassin: butane waht
[10/05/2013 19:56:35] (ADMIN) Butane: shutup
[10/05/2013 19:56:38] (ADMIN) Butane: last warning
[10/05/2013 19:56:38] Knopp: oh admin^^
[10/05/2013 19:56:46] ENDLESSMONK left the game (Permanently banned: micspam)
[10/05/2013 19:56:49] Procrastinator Python: Oh
[10/05/2013 19:56:50] Frasbob has joined the game
[10/05/2013 19:56:52] Procrastinator Python: Didnt see ya there
[10/05/2013 19:57:04] dopefish: pyro's mmu is pretty good Big Grin
[10/05/2013 19:57:05] *DEAD* dark assassin: butane is stupid
[10/05/2013 19:57:15] Procrastinator Python: inb4 ban
[10/05/2013 19:57:17] (TEAM) ??Shane B.I.T.W?? Live: my spot just lol.
[10/05/2013 19:57:18] *DEAD* dark assassin: y
[10/05/2013 19:57:21] Father Discord: yes insult the admin that will end well
[10/05/2013 19:57:24] ? Epic Ruby-ness ?: everyone here named discord is sexy
[10/05/2013 19:57:29] *DEAD* (TEAM) Scraggles McKuhn: yeh good one
[10/05/2013 19:57:38] *DEAD* dark assassin: banane ssucks
[10/05/2013 19:57:38] *DEAD* Mr.Tacocat.: Lol, nice spot, Father Discard XD
[10/05/2013 19:57:38] Father Discord: why am i gagged
[10/05/2013 19:57:39] dopefish: John de Lance is sexy
[10/05/2013 19:57:47] ? Epic Ruby-ness ?: i know!
[10/05/2013 19:57:54] (ADMIN) Butane: if you have an issue dark, take it to the forums, not here
[10/05/2013 19:58:00] dopefish: he made planes crash Big GrinDD
[10/05/2013 19:58:00] ElectronicFerret: HI BUTANE
[10/05/2013 19:58:03] ElectronicFerret: <3
[10/05/2013 19:58:28] Father Discord: why am i gagged and muted
[10/05/2013 19:58:29] (ADMIN) Butane: I gagged everyone who was talking after I said shutup
[10/05/2013 19:58:35] (ADMIN) Butane: wait it out
[10/05/2013 19:58:38] ElectronicFerret: oh, alas
[10/05/2013 19:58:39] Mr.Tacocat.: i don' like playing pyro D:
[10/05/2013 19:58:40] dark assassin: butane is a ahole
[10/05/2013 19:58:41] ElectronicFerret: aight
[10/05/2013 19:58:41] (ADMIN) Butane: not reading chat is not an excuse
[10/05/2013 19:58:45] platnumtiger1: hi
[10/05/2013 19:58:58] (ADMIN) Butane: learn to read
[10/05/2013 19:59:06] (ADMIN) Butane: then shutup
[10/05/2013 19:59:08] ? Epic Ruby-ness ?: dude please ungag discord he isnt a spammer!
[10/05/2013 19:59:11] *SPEC* DatDudeLarkin: zomg an Admin
[10/05/2013 19:59:20] ? Epic Ruby-ness ?: butane youre abusing your power
[10/05/2013 19:59:26] ? Epic Ruby-ness ?: and its fucked
[10/05/2013 19:59:35] (ADMIN) Butane: take it to the forums if you have an issue
[10/05/2013 19:59:35] *DEAD* dopefish: There's a janitor here?
[10/05/2013 19:59:43] ? Epic Ruby-ness ?: love to
[10/05/2013 19:59:58] dark assassin: yo
[10/05/2013 20:00:03] ? Epic Ruby-ness ?: i'll report you for abuse of power
[10/05/2013 20:00:06] (ADMIN) Butane: ok
[10/05/2013 20:00:08] ?Sentinal? left the game (Disconnect by user.)
[10/05/2013 20:00:10] The Black Knight has joined the game
[10/05/2013 20:00:19] dark assassin: who gives a aa crap a
[10/05/2013 20:00:20] (ADMIN) Butane: forums.sourceop.com
[10/05/2013 20:00:20] ? Epic Ruby-ness ?: votekick butane
[10/05/2013 20:00:22] dark assassin left the game (Disconnect by user.)
[10/05/2013 20:00:23] Bane has joined the game
[10/05/2013 20:00:26] ElectronicFerret: lol no
[10/05/2013 20:00:27] EVoLve: lol
[10/05/2013 20:00:28] *DEAD* Knopp: haha
[10/05/2013 20:00:29] *DEAD* dopefish: votekick
[10/05/2013 20:00:33] *SPEC* DatDudeLarkin: lmao
[10/05/2013 20:00:34] ? Epic Ruby-ness ?: Votekick
[10/05/2013 20:00:38] *DEAD* (TEAM) GuyDeAwesome: god!
[10/05/2013 20:00:39] ? Epic Ruby-ness ? left the game (Temporarily banned: insitagating admins)
[10/05/2013 20:00:47] [RGers]Shanewayne9(?™Wink has joined the game
[10/05/2013 20:00:54] (TEAM) Procrastinator Python: /votekick
[10/05/2013 20:00:55] [SourceOP] dopefish wants to start a votekick against dopefish for some reason not specified.
[10/05/2013 20:00:55] [SourceOP] 3 players must second the motion by saying "votekick" before the vote starts.
[10/05/2013 20:01:03] *SPEC* DatDudeLarkin: votekick
[10/05/2013 20:01:03] [SourceOP] Still need 2 players to second the motion to votekick.
[10/05/2013 20:01:04] ElectronicFerret: wtf are you all doing
[10/05/2013 20:01:07] ElectronicFerret: is it crazy night or what
[10/05/2013 20:01:08] *SPEC* Bane: ^
[10/05/2013 20:01:08] Procrastinator Python: votekick
[10/05/2013 20:01:19] Father Discord: can i talk now
[10/05/2013 20:01:22] EVoLve: i like hiding more than seeking :/
[10/05/2013 20:01:25] [SourceOP] Did not get enough people to second the motion to votekick.
[10/05/2013 20:01:27] *DEAD* GuyDeAwesome: wow. I just found TWO tribal's shiv at once!
[10/05/2013 20:01:32] *SPEC* DatDudeLarkin: darn
[10/05/2013 20:01:32] [RGers]Shanewayne9(?™Wink left the game (Disconnect by user.)
[10/05/2013 20:01:34] dopefish left the game (Temporarily banned: votekick abouse)
[10/05/2013 20:01:37] *DEAD* mazellaj: there is music why
[10/05/2013 20:01:43] Mr.Tacocat.: Can I have one?
[10/05/2013 20:01:45] Golden Indian: 3 hp
[10/05/2013 20:01:47] *DEAD* ElectronicFerret: the maps habe music buttons built into them
[10/05/2013 20:01:48] *SPEC* The Black Knight: why not?
[10/05/2013 20:01:54] ?iNZ?NE? left the game (Disconnect by user.)
[10/05/2013 20:01:56] *DEAD* GuyDeAwesome: huh?
[10/05/2013 20:02:18] ElectronicFerret: I hit the music button, so it'll go until it runs out
[10/05/2013 20:02:19] Hired Mercenary Assasin left the game (Hired Mercenary Assasin timed out)
[10/05/2013 20:02:24] Hiota has joined the game
[10/05/2013 20:02:25] mazellaj: noooooooooooooooooo
[10/05/2013 20:02:29] Father Discord: pootis
[10/05/2013 20:02:30] *DEAD* ElectronicFerret: OH DERP
[10/05/2013 20:02:31] Father Discord left the game (Disconnect by user.)
[10/05/2013 20:02:32] Father Discord has joined the game
[10/05/2013 20:02:38] *DEAD* ElectronicFerret: OH CAPSLOCK
[10/05/2013 20:02:40] *DEAD* ElectronicFerret: ah well
[10/05/2013 20:02:52] *SPEC* Father Discord: horray for internet derp
[10/05/2013 20:03:16] GuyDeAwesome left the game (Disconnect by user.)
[10/05/2013 20:03:23] *DEAD* Golden Indian: how?
[10/05/2013 20:03:28] *DEAD* Golden Indian: did you now?
[10/05/2013 20:03:31] [LAZY] Good News, Everyone! left the game (Disconnect by user.)
[10/05/2013 20:03:33] *DEAD* Golden Indian: bane?
[10/05/2013 20:03:34] ??Shane B.I.T.W?? Live: frasbob
[10/05/2013 20:03:36] EVoLve: mr admin sir, how long is everyone gagged for? i miss hearing their voices :/
[10/05/2013 20:03:36] ??Shane B.I.T.W?? Live: u have your hat on
[10/05/2013 20:03:39] ??Shane B.I.T.W?? Live: lol.
[10/05/2013 20:03:45] Father Discord left the game (Disconnect by user.)
[10/05/2013 20:03:47] *DEAD* Golden Indian: me?
[10/05/2013 20:03:49] (ADMIN) Butane: they are gagged until the end of the round
-LAST REPLY I MADE ABOUT INCIDENT-

Thanks.
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#4

A very civil response.

Regardless, I should explain what happened a little more clearly.

There was one individual in particular who was mic spamming. That individual was not me or others who were gagged. I noticed Butane was telling someone to "shut up," but I assumed he was talking to the mic spammer specifically. Apparently, it was directed towards everyone.

I would just like to know the reasoning for gagging everyone using their microphones.

It would also be nice if you were civil with me, for I am being civil with you.
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#5

You assumed wrong..

Thanks.
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#6

It still wasn't a proper warning. All you said was "shut up."

A better warning would, at the least, be, "everyone using your mics, shut up."

I would also like to apologize on behalf of Ruby who handled the situation wrong.
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#7

[10/05/2013 19:57:05] *DEAD* dark assassin: butane is stupid

Not for nothing, but seeing the crowd in the chatlog, I'm guessing not only the gags were warranted but needed. Butane wasn't perm-gagging or anything silly, he was waiting for calm to return while everyone played, something I've done as well.
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#8

That's acceptable. I wish that was the response I got the first time rather than, "shut up, fuck off, read the rules." Thank you, Dopp.
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#9

dopp does it: noone says a word,
butane does it: ADMIN ABUSE!

no hard feelings, apology accepted. Wink

Thanks.
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#10

[10/05/2013 19:57:05] *DEAD* dark assassin: butane is stupid
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