[WombRaider]

you guys got me. im the worst.


still don't understand where you're getting these ideas from about map changes.

[TheDopp]

To be clear - Womb is a good admin. He just doesn't have the access that everyone imagines he has. Valve1 regulars are butthurt about him for the same reason PH regulars are butthurt about Butane - they both do their job, and do it well.
He's wrong about engineers being the problem.
We've had plenty of threads about what to do, now it's up to the folks that do have the access to make the call. I'll reiterate my desire to turn Valve1 into 'valve maps that don't suck', valve 2 into 'all the other maps plus flavor of the week', goldrush to PL, 2fort (the empty one) to CTF and pro to whatever flavor of the week mod is (dodgeball).

[WombRaider]

engineers class designed so girls could feel like they were good when they played video games

[speedily]

it's also clear you don't really know how much i've done for the server.

it's OK. love to hate womb raider is the same game we've been playing for years lets keep it up doods.

First of all this isn't about YOU it's about the community.

still don't understand where you're getting these ideas from about map changes.

Secondly, that's because you never play on the Valve Maps server as much as the rest of us, I don't think I have seen u there in over 2 months. I usually put in a good 3-4 hours a day (when it doesn't die of course), 2 hours of that is spent trying to get people to join. A quick solution...get rid of the maps that kill the server and allow more than 2 options to vote for the next map, put 5 choices up that we can all choose from...problem solved.

Lastly, if the admins are "too busy" to do anything, then why not let someone who is never busy to maintain it, at least the power to change maps. I have a disability, I'm in a wheelchair and am unable to work which is why I spent so much time on TF2, I am always available and would gladly help...just saying if admins are too busy, then resign your admin privileges..the whole purpose of being an admin is just that to administer, not complain about how many people write to you on chat about changing the map...if this is the case, THEN CHANGE THE MAP ALREADY...I'm sure there are plenty of others who aren't as busy who would gladly do it...

The Cold War is over and Rodney King is dead...can't we all just get along

[WombRaider]

i play on the server more than you guys realize

ur bein jerkz

[Wolfpup]

im the worst.

I wouldn't go that far, just ineffectual.

still don't understand where you're getting these ideas from about map changes.

Oh, ya know, telling me to shut the fuck up in game when I along with others have asked. You mock and berate people for wanting a different map.

To be clear - Womb is a good admin.....

Good at rarely playing.
Good at telling members who ask for map change (in game, when he is actually there) to shut the fuck up. Classy!
Good at snide remarks/goading. *After a map change request, from multiple regulars that he ignores/berates* (Closely paraphrasing) "Ok everyone, jump an Steam chat and beg Fusion to come change the map!". (Oh, we will/do, because he does his job!)

But good at being an admin, and doing his job well, no! How is doing nothing and rarely playing being a good admin? I just don't get it.

[Butane]

C'mon, be a tad nicer everyone. Chat all you want about server issues, but please keep attacks out of this thread.

[TheDopp]

The rules thread has a part specifically about asking for map changes. It's not a power all admins have, and in large part due to what was already mentioned in the thread about always switching to the same maps and the server dying because of it.
In any event, as I said, it's up to the big-wigs to decide what to do. Womb is a baller, not a big-wig (Fusion isn't a big-wig either).

Here's a question - would everyone want a rotation that takes 12 hours to complete (I think we're at a 15 hour rotation right now) or one that takes maybe 6 hours? So more maps on valve1, just with the junk removed, or very cut down, and have valve2 have other good maps in a small rotation?

[Drunken F00l]

Of note is that the motd says Kong King and Nightfall are in the rotation, yet they clearly aren't, so I've added them at the end.

They were removed shortly after because people didn't like them.

[Drunken F00l]

I've removed 2fort, doublecross, sawmill in all its forms, ctf_well, hightower, and doomsday. I didn't change the order of any of them though. If you guys really want to add Kong King and Nightfall, I can do that too.

New rotation:

Code:

cp_well
cp_dustbowl
pl_hoodoo_final
cp_freight_final1
koth_badlands
cp_coldfront
pl_frontier_final
cp_degrootkeep
cp_gorge
pl_badwater
cp_egypt_final
cp_fastlane
koth_nucleus
cp_granary
pl_barnblitz
cp_foundry
tc_hydro
ctf_turbine
cp_mountainlab
cp_junction_final
pl_goldrush
cp_steel
koth_viaduct
pl_upward
cp_badlands
cp_gravelpit
koth_lakeside_final
cp_gullywash_final1
pl_thundermountain
cp_5gorge
koth_harvest_final
cp_yukon_final
plr_pipeline