[LordEC911]

Here in Germany, where guns are harder to get, gun crimes are uncommon, prepared to the USA.

Guess where one of the top 5 genocides of the 20th Century happened after guns were outlawed in that country?

1928, the Weimar passed a Law that disarmed the civilian population. The Nazi regime siezed power shortly thereafter and in 1938, the Law was extended by Hitler himself.

Originally Posted by motown_steve
Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.

Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.

[Sushimitzu]

Here in Germany, where guns are harder to get, gun crimes are uncommon, prepared to the USA.

Here in the USA, where gun crimes are easy to get, gun crimes are still relatively uncommon.

In fact less than 10% of violent crimes in the united states involve a gun. You're statistically 10 times more likely to be beaten with a hammer than even be threatened with a gun.

Before we get into making up facts, please use sources.
In the USA, the annual murder rate by guns is 13 times higher than in Germany and 44 times higher than in England and Wales.[1] The Guardian says that, and they are pretty conservative.

"The endurance of the gun in America is not about nostalgia for a golden past," says Sugarmann. "It's about political fear. Politicians have abandoned their moral responsibility to ensure public safety because of the perceived power of the gun lobby."

[OmegaZero_Alpha]

Did you just say not to make up facts and then use an opinion as a source?

[Sushimitzu]

Sauce is sauce.

[OmegaZero_Alpha]

Sauce is sauce.

That's retarded. An opinion is not a source

Based on survey data from the U.S. Department of Justice, roughly 5,340,000 violent crimes were committed in the United States during 2008. These include simple/aggravated assaults, robberies, sexual assaults, rapes, and murders.Of these, about 436,000 or 8% were committed by offenders visibly armed with a gun.

[Snarf]

This is stupid

Proof that this is stupid.

[Sushimitzu]

Roughly 16,272 murders were committed in the United States during 2008. Of these, about 10,886 or 67% were committed with firearms.

[OmegaZero_Alpha]

All that statistic proves is that guns are lethal. I think we knew that.



Oh look. An 70% murder spike when guns were banned in a certain area.







And there are some places that murder rates went down significantly after the right to carry was put into place.

It's almost as if the majority of people who own guns aren't criminals and can actually prevent crime with firearms. But then again hyper-liberal countries recovering from fascist states aren't aware of this.

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This is my current toy

[LordEC911]

Yeah, I need to get an AR soon.
Been looking at the BCM carbines.

Edit- Is that reflex sight even useable on top of the scope?
Just seems that it is mounted really high.