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Yeah who needs smooth framerate it's not like benchmarks are done in game engines or anything, that would be crazy. It's a definitive downgrade so you can have the ati name on the card. Especially when most nvidia cards generally are the same price as their competitors. My favorite thing about ati is how they are literally two steps behind in performance almost consistently.
I bet you would buy from a car dealer who was ripping you off just because you have been buying from him for awhile.
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Snarf Wrote:Maybe you should buy from a vendor that doesn't suck, like evga. I have never personally seen a nvidia card die from anything that wasn't poor owner maintenance. And the problem with ATI cards is they are far behind in benchmarks and have been for awhile now.
These cards were from several different vendors, mostly ASUS and XFX at the time... but the memory problem was not limited to a single vendor. The vendors used the same modules from a single manufacturer.
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They're pretty outdated cards by now anyways you could at least get a 9800 instead. I never used an 8800 but from what I was told they were a solid card.
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Snarf Wrote:They're pretty outdated cards by now anyways you could at least get a 9800 instead. I never used an 8800 but from what I was told they were a solid card.
The 7950s were from about 5 years ago, that just happened to be the biggest batch of returns. I've done about 5 returns on 8800GTXs. And I'm not saying ATI cards are more reliable, but I'm willing to give them a try at this point. Many years ago, ATI had superior hardware and terrible fucking drivers. The drivers improved greatly when they went to a unified driver architecture like nvidia had, but now their hardware is barely keeping up.
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Snarf Wrote:I bet you would buy from a car dealer who was ripping you off just because you have been buying from him for awhile.
At the time, the 4890 cost me as much as GTX 260s were selling for, and as you know the performance of the 4890 is closer to (and often surpasses) the GTX 275, which cost around $100 more on average. Are you trying to make the point that ATI cards cost more and perform worse?
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The 200 series itself was a complete failure. I wouldn't even touch anything between the 100 and 400 series. The 9800 itself was a pretty damn good card anyways, I have a friend with a 5 year old one that still hasn't died despite missing thermal paste and this card regularly hits 100c.
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GTX 280 owner here. Apparently I have a failure card.
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They have a very high failure rate.
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Snarf Wrote:They have a very high failure rate.
owned nvidia gtx 260, 275, 285s in sli..never had a problem with any of these series cards. Stopped upgrading last year on 2 ATI 5970s with the ability to upgrade to 4 video cards in crossfire. This runs 3 30" monitors in eyefinity beautifully and to be honest so did the 285s...
Have not played a game that has COMPLETELY utilized the machine that was built and probably won't for awhile now. I have used both ATI & Nvidia and almost most of all generations.
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Because you never had a problem with them they must not have an 8% rma rate. And keep in mind that is a return rate not an overall failure rate these are the people that had them die with warranties.
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