[Kaylee]

demoman is more effective that the soldier at close range but at long rank the soldier is more effective so they both equal out i think.

I would have probably said it the other way around.

Agree but I don't like what Unknown said either

[Hell-met]

demoman is more effective that the soldier at close range but at long rank the soldier is more effective so they both equal out i think.

this isn't true for several reasons
the soldier can out-spam a demoman pretty easily. in close combat, generally, the soldier has the advantage
at high/pro skill levels, i.e. solidsnake, wo0t (lol), invisible, etc, then yes i'd say the demoman wins at close range, simply because they'll find ways to hit you up that close.
far away, demoman just wins. the soldier can change that to an up-close battle by rocket jumping, but the area denial property of the demoman makes him superior at long range

remember kiddies
soldier<demoman<scout<medic

hey look someone with a brain

i love you unknown

people seem to believe rockets can snipe people. lolno

stickies can though

[OmegaZero_Alpha]

How incompetent do you have to be to lose as a soldier at close range?

Are we forgetting that you get hit once and then you lose control of movement and then the second hit is a guaranteed kill? Are you that idiot that always tries for the head at close range?

[Hell-met]

who are you even arguing against

[OmegaZero_Alpha]

who are you even arguing against

whoever was suggesting that soldiers lose in up-close battles to demomen.

[Snarf]

pipebombs? do a 6v6 pug and notice that a soldier avoids close range with demomen.

[OmegaZero_Alpha]

6v6 pug

also notice that all of the snipers are using huntsman and the scouts avoid close-range battles

[unknown]

@OZA, a good demoman (one whos good with pipes, that is) gets close to you, even if you're a soldier, you can expect to lose. the speed of pipes, plus the fact that a demoman can dodge more easily than a soldier, means that the soldier will more likely go flying.

however, i can say with a decent amount of confidence that you dont see that kind of skill in a pub. for the same reason that people dont spam "airshot" or "8)" [read: because there's no skill in pubs]

[OmegaZero_Alpha]

@OZA, a good demoman (one whos good with pipes, that is) gets close to you, even if you're a soldier, you can expect to lose. the speed of pipes, plus the fact that a demoman can dodge more easily than a soldier, means that the soldier will more likely go flying.

Rocket jump: first shot to the feet, second shot to where he is landing. I have played against competitive players who main demoman and with this strategy they are dead before you hit the ground.

That or get RIGHT IN THEIR FACE so it becomes "who has the most health" and they get blown up by their own explosions.

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