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sk8 Wrote:to me it does not look like an exploit but i can just see how annoying this can be, a warning should of been enough.
hellmet you should go on the goldrush server and ban all the people that uses pipes over the walls on stage 3. THAT is more of an exploit than this.
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Hell-met Wrote:sk8 Wrote:to me it does not look like an exploit but i can just see how annoying this can be, a warning should of been enough.
hellmet you should go on the goldrush server and ban all the people that uses pipes over the walls on stage 3. THAT is more of an exploit than this.
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Hell-met Wrote:sk8 Wrote:to me it does not look like an exploit but i can just see how annoying this can be, a warning should of been enough.
hellmet you should go on the goldrush server and ban all the people that uses pipes over the walls on stage 3. THAT is more of an exploit than this.
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But you never show up on Valve 2 anyways so I'm safe to continue my wicked wicked ways!
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I've played with Hell for a very long time. He may not like some other players (there's plenty I don't like too) but hes not the kind of person to abuse powers just for personal spite. I realize a character reference is unlikely to change your mind but It's worth a shot.
The other admins and I are not monolithic machines of impartial justice. Just dedicated supporters of source op who want to keep the game and the community fun. Some of the decisions made can be controversial and seem unfair, we try our best though to minimize such situations.
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i'm pretty sure the only one who thinks there's any sort of personal vendetta is that jerclay guy
the real issue here is that hell-met freaked out over someone shooting out of a window
The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State.
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The real issue is that hell-met legitimately considers that window an exploit, and jerclay doesn't.
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i'm curious to know what your definition of exploit is.
The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State.
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I have sent email to Robin which will hopefully settle this.
Both sides of this debate have merritt. Personally, I wouldn't have banned for it, but only to avoid drama like this. It is pretty clear to me that it shouldn't be allowed but it's minor enough and easy enough to counter that I wouldn't worry about it.
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Drunken_F00l Wrote:I have sent email to Robin which will hopefully settle this.
Both sides of this debate have merritt. Personally, I wouldn't have banned for it, but only to avoid drama like this. It is pretty clear to me that it shouldn't be allowed but it's minor enough and easy enough to counter that I wouldn't worry about it.
Use your source op to block the window!
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I could also do that, yes.