[CueBee]

I'm going to change it so that it won't let you spectate if teams are unbalanced.

But what about people who join spec preemptively when the teams are balanced to avoid team balancing?

Huuur Duuur?

[Butane]

Sweet, then people cheating can't be looked at when everyone abandons ship.

contact admin to hard to type?

[Drunken F00l]

Sweet, then people cheating can't be looked at when everyone abandons ship.

OK HOW ABOUT I DISABLE SPECTATOR AGAIN BECAUSE YOU KIDS CANT FUCKING HANDLE IT FUCK

[cerealkiller9]

Sweet, then people cheating can't be looked at when everyone abandons ship.

OK HOW ABOUT I DISABLE SPECTATOR AGAIN BECAUSE YOU KIDS CANT FUCKING HANDLE IT FUCK

Jesus Christ, it's like daycare in here. How the fuck do you put up with this shit DF?

When I had my own server (for others games) I would listen to what the majority said and usually went with it. But if I didn't think it would benefit most players then I would still do what I wanted and tell them to deal with it.

You can't please everybody. It's like being an official, every call you make half of everybody is going to love you and half of everybody is going to want to kill you so you might as well do what YOU think is best and the whiners can deal with it or get the fuck out.

[OmegaZero_Alpha]

Or run it like my servers and everybody hates me but still they are the best servers on TF2...

[CueBee]

Maybe Goldrush or Valvemaps had a lot of problems when there wasn't spec, but all that happened when spec came back to 2fort was more stacking.

Also it is true - you can't please everyone. You might as well choose the solution that is the most satisfying for you as the administrator.

[OmegaZero_Alpha]

Why not get a separate spec server like SourceTV and turn off spectate?

It would make it so hackers can't see spectators and you couldn't use it to bypass balance.

[Squirrelygod]

Sweet, then people cheating can't be looked at when everyone abandons ship.

OK HOW ABOUT I DISABLE SPECTATOR AGAIN BECAUSE YOU KIDS CANT FUCKING HANDLE IT FUCK

Yes caps lock, that will get the point across. Doesn't make raging past logical points seem like bull at all. Doesn't make assuming someone does the shit you're raging about just because they are trying to make points for you to consider seem like bull at all.

And now that I'm done playing for the night, let me make with the logic again.

Teams were stacked, again, had the usual people who don't want to be on the stacked team against the stacked team, but those numbers never match up.

Still griefing aholes who won't just stop when you ask them, and still like pulling a rabid dogs teeth to get them kicked because one team wants to take advantage of it until it effects them. The free weekend is really not helping this one.

and in response to one of Butanes posts, I did already say how a telegriefing, and now an aimbotting guy has been showing up for over a month now, and contact admin, set to emergency, hasn't been banned yet and was only kicked twice for a reason I stated above.

Now look, you can say that 'I don't get the point' or that 'I'm a trolling asshole' but all I'm saying is that this is not the correct fix for this, it's not even really a bandaid. At least on the sourceop server I'm on not a damn person is afraid of mods doing shit, mostly cause we never see a mod. Last time I saw a mod(for all I know he isn't even a mod anymore) I had to talk him into showing up to that server via steamchat.

I know mods and admins have other shit to do with their time, like jobs and lives maybe even sleep, or even just want to play the game they paid for, but can we just get a few more? At least for hours that don't seem to be covered? Even like demi-mods that can only hand out temps for douchebaggery would at least be a nice little patch.

[glouch]

Why not get a separate spec server like SourceTV and turn off spectate?

It would make it so hackers can't see spectators and you couldn't use it to bypass balance.

I believe there was SourceTV a while ago, but DF disabled it since it was causing some kind of problem.

[OmegaZero_Alpha]

Yes caps lock, that will get the point across. Doesn't make raging past logical points seem like bull at all. Doesn't make assuming someone does the shit you're raging about just because they are trying to make points for you to consider seem like bull at all.

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Teams were stacked, again, had the usual people who don't want to be on the stacked team against the stacked team, but those numbers never match up.

Still griefing aholes who won't just stop when you ask them, and still like pulling a rabid dogs teeth to get them kicked because one team wants to take advantage of it until it effects them. The free weekend is really not helping this one.

If the numbers added up it wouldn't be stacking. Have you tried communicating with your team and playing better? I find it helps.

and in response to one of Butanes posts, I did already say how a telegriefing, and now an aimbotting guy has been showing up for over a month now, and contact admin, set to emergency, hasn't been banned yet and was only kicked twice for a reason I stated above.

Did you try compiling evidence and then bringing the case here or do you just like to whine?

Now look, you can say that 'I don't get the point' or that 'I'm a trolling asshole' but all I'm saying is that this is not the correct fix for this, it's not even really a bandaid. At least on the sourceop server I'm on not a damn person is afraid of mods doing shit, mostly cause we never see a mod. Last time I saw a mod(for all I know he isn't even a mod anymore) I had to talk him into showing up to that server via steamchat.

There is a nice feature called CONTACT ADMIN. Try it.

I know mods and admins have other shit to do with their time, like jobs and lives maybe even sleep, or even just want to play the game they paid for, but can we just get a few more? At least for hours that don't seem to be covered? Even like demi-mods that can only hand out temps for douchebaggery would at least be a nice little patch.

This probably wouldn't hurt anything.