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You clearly did say that, some kid was recording you for youtube and you wigged out saying it was against the law to do so where you live if you ask them not to. XD!
Changing your story once you're here from when you were in a public trade server raging is pointless. -_-
Regardless; if you want to be paid for pc's say so up front, however wigging out and raging after the fact is a lost cause.
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This is a flame bucket, don't see where the issue is here.Originally Posted by Butane
And the kid was agreeing with me, not you, but continue to be full of it.
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I think you're unfairly derailing the thread against Ikebot, and I think he has a point. I don't charge for price checks, but it seriously does get on my neres when that's all people use me for. I don't mind price-checking, especially since I admin for UTC and /r/tf2trade, so I do it a *lot*, but people who add me and don't even have the courtesty to tip me with friendly conversation are nothing but parasites. I tend to provide the first handful of price checks, but as each one gets more and more impatient, I tend to be less and less polite.Just had a 15 minute conversation with Ikebot in a trade server about how pissed off he gets when he gives out price checks and doesn't get refined or keys in return for doing so. His 10 minutes are extremely valuable to him as well.
I guess some people just literally think that being polite is not free today. If you're too busy; say you're too busy. However expecting to be paid to give a noob advice (regardless of how useful it may be in the long run) is terrible, period.
Edit: obviously you do care what atom has to say if you literally jumped on this thread the second I left. rofl!
"I may save them 20 dollars with my price check, the least they could do is give me a key"
No one is forcing you to PC bro, you seem to think your services are manditory. Being an admitted asshole and self centered is great an all, however just because you have sales, doesn't make you respectful and a pleasure to work with. I can't even count the repeat customers I have due to the level of respect I show others. For my design services and for my sales. If you feel there is no connection between being polite (EVEN IF YOU DON'T MAKE PROFIT) and making sales; I strongly suggest you look up anything on google in regards to small business ethics and customer service. =)
Hate on me if you like, but it is courteous to tip someone for services valuable to your benefit. I don't expect a dime for middlemanning or price-checking, but there are some people on my friends list who are more valuable to me as long-term friends because they don't just treat me like google.
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LOL, that's why you said he should leave? oh man, this is pointless, next time i'll do the recording and have no issue posting. <3This is a flame bucket, don't see where the issue is here.
And the kid was agreeing with me, not you, but continue to be full of it.
Asking for a rec up front, getting pissed you didn't get one. Now saying you ask for one but in the end don't take it. So lost as to where the logic is here.
Done w/this one,. pick a position and stick to it, changing from one second to the next is pointless. If you think paying for pc's is great, say so, if you don't, say so, however what you said 20 mins ago was getting tons of rofl's in game, now you're saying something different, can't just flip a coin based on what forum you're discussing in. XD
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I totally agree with you, however I literally just sat in a trade server discussing this with ike and his stand in there was NOTHING as to what it is here. He openly admitted to being an "asshole" his words, not mine, and said that he's totally in this for himself and it pisses him off when he doesn't get paid at least a rec or a key for his pc's because of the time it wastes. There are a million and one ways to avoid that, however I guess next time I should get proof of past voice conversations prior to taking it elsewhere. It's not that hard to change your stand to avoid flames in a place you deem yourself respectful. =)I think you're unfairly derailing the thread against Ikebot, and I think he has a point. I don't charge for price checks, but it seriously does get on my neres when that's all people use me for. I don't mind price-checking, especially since I admin for UTC and /r/tf2trade, so I do it a *lot*, but people who add me and don't even have the courtesty to tip me with friendly conversation are nothing but parasites. I tend to provide the first handful of price checks, but as each one gets more and more impatient, I tend to be less and less polite.Just had a 15 minute conversation with Ikebot in a trade server about how pissed off he gets when he gives out price checks and doesn't get refined or keys in return for doing so. His 10 minutes are extremely valuable to him as well.
I guess some people just literally think that being polite is not free today. If you're too busy; say you're too busy. However expecting to be paid to give a noob advice (regardless of how useful it may be in the long run) is terrible, period.
Edit: obviously you do care what atom has to say if you literally jumped on this thread the second I left. rofl!
"I may save them 20 dollars with my price check, the least they could do is give me a key"
No one is forcing you to PC bro, you seem to think your services are manditory. Being an admitted asshole and self centered is great an all, however just because you have sales, doesn't make you respectful and a pleasure to work with. I can't even count the repeat customers I have due to the level of respect I show others. For my design services and for my sales. If you feel there is no connection between being polite (EVEN IF YOU DON'T MAKE PROFIT) and making sales; I strongly suggest you look up anything on google in regards to small business ethics and customer service. =)
Hate on me if you like, but it is courteous to tip someone for services valuable to your benefit. I don't expect a dime for middlemanning or price-checking, but there are some people on my friends list who are more valuable to me as long-term friends because they don't just treat me like google.
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I was not pissed to get a reclaim, I was pissed to get a random trade and the guy curse me out for not spending 10 minutes price checking him. I didn't ask for a reclaim, I closed trade and he went all crazy. Others were in server and still are here and no one is laughing about it in here.
You straight out lie when you say I was mad about not getting paid. What upsets me is people demanding it. The reclaim/key means nothing, but the time does. There were 30 people here who disagree with what you are saying but I guess you are right!
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okay dude, okay. Not sure what else to say or do here. If that's how you truely feel; awesome. However what reason would I have to come in here and randomly post that you had felt this way after you said you didn't care about atom's post?
I'm merely confused as to what you think I would have to gain by doing so. *shrug* I don't care about your trading practices, however I found it funny that you had such a strong stand one way in game, and another in here. =)
That kid wasn't recording anyway, was talkin out his butt too. =( Ahh well. No point going on w/out proof.
"6:33 AM - Sir_Light ?Designer for Hire!?: sup dude
6:33 AM - Sir_Light ?Designer for Hire!?: were you the one recording?
6:34 AM - RECON_B2: yep
6:34 AM - Sir_Light ?Designer for Hire!?: do me a favor
6:34 AM - Sir_Light ?Designer for Hire!?: can i have that recording?
6:34 AM - RECON_B2: no
6:34 AM - Sir_Light ?Designer for Hire!?: i can give you somewhere to upload it
6:34 AM - Sir_Light ?Designer for Hire!?: ..why?
RECON_B2 is now Offline."
hehe =P
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What a dick....
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Hamstar and IKEbot.
Instead of crying like a big gay baby over it, just say "sorry bro, don't give price checks, later" it's not hard and there's no need to post your tl;dr walls of terrible writing about it.
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