Half-Duplex` & Ralconn gagged issue

[Half-Duplex]

As soon as you become irritating or start annoying people, it's no longer OK. I tell admins to just use their best judgment. I'm sure Kaylee used hers appropriately.

These types of annoyances tend to discourage people from playing and are not conducive to the fun atmosphere I like to maintain on the servers.

Irritating to who? To the admin personally, or to everyone in general? I'm no idiot, I know there are people who don't like me because they think, that I think I know it all. But I'm also certain there are many who embrace what I say since it usually results in the win. You can read the chat logs if you'd like. Many of the people that were witnesses to this incident were completely clueless as to what was going on.

What I don't understand is why its OK for Kaylee to safely assume that because she feels something is annoying to her - then it is therefore annoying to the entire server, and everyone who is playing. I don't understand how you can't see that she used her administrative privileges to solve a personal problem, and not a server problem.

Because lets face it - I play on this server every day. I act the same way...don't you think someone would have posted by now if I was a really pestering the server. If you were to ask most players, you'd find that they either would say, "Yeah he's pretty cool" or "No I don't like him...I just have him muted"

Much like what Kaylee's good friend Nummy has done.

3. And why did Ralconn get gagged for simply defending me?

Because he was only making the situation worse.

Making the situation worse how? Clearly something was out of hand here. And having Kaylee gag me under false acquisitions was making the situation worse in itself. Her explanations were unclear and not precise. I am not the only one who thinks this.

Micas, you and Tips have been on thin ice for ages. It was no surprise you two would jump on the bandwagon when Duplex started his thing. I try to keep a fair and open mind towards you two as best I can but honestly I don't know if your complaints or word mean much anymore considering your history around here.

This isn't some sort of popularity contest I'm trying to win. This isn't some sort of "Hate Kaylee" fan club. Its two separate occasions where her reasoning has been thrown into question. What you have to accept is the fact that not everyone is going to get along with one another. People will have their disagreements. And what Kaylee may call annoying, I call something else. The thing is, this isn't an issue with me disturbing the server. Its an issue with Kaylee just being annoyed with me personally and disliking my approach to having a good time by actively engaging over the microphone. Perhaps instead of assuming that everyone has a problem with me over the mic, maybe next time she can hold a vote in game. I can understand if she doesn't want to listen to me, but that doesn't mean the whole server doesn't want to listen to me either. In fact, when I came back to play later that evening, she was the only one having a problem with me over the microphone. Not even Kia (who was either ignoring me or just not paying attention the chat) had said anything until Kaylee had mentioned his name stating that she'll leave it in his hands.

Makes no sense to me.

I heard you cursing and insulting people over the mic that night after I warned you (and this was after a warning and a gag earlier in the day). Kia has my back on this, he wanted to gag you both too. (Just to be clear, I gagged him for the cursing/insulting then he rejoined to complain about it in chat before I gagged him for the third time.)

Kia was completely oblivious as to what was going on until a good half of it was already over. He started to actively engage into the matter at hand right about when you gagged me the second time.

The fact of the matter is, I wasn't cursing after you warned me in the chat. And even when I was cursing earlier, I wasn't calling anyone names. My swearing does not extend anywhere further than those who offend me (by name slander and what have you), and those who kill me on the other team (who can't hear me anyway, unless of course, Admins). And even in that case, its nothing more than, "This $^$@$ killed me again. we need to get that #@$%@$." And if that is so wrong, then I will refrain from using such language. So as long as it is followed by everyone else on the server as well. Ralconn can vouch for me on that. And as he stated above earlier,

He merely said something along the lines of "How come we don't have A?"...

This was after I received my first warning of the night, Kaylee. You even admitted in the chat that you possibly misheard me and could have made a mistake (This should be in the chat logs as well). And just on a side note: Is cursing, name calling, etc, prohibited on the server? If so - there are many times where I will join the server, and not be connected for more than 5 minutes before someone starts to verbally attack me, and there is never any action taken.

Kaylee...why didn't you gag the players who continued to provoke me after I had been gagged? I saw you give them warnings...but they went overboard clear after you gave them a shake of the finger and nothing was done in my defense.

Needless to say, my feathers were flustered. And yes I did continue to press the issue, even though you had requested that I discontinue my rant. However, when all was aside - and when I was willing to carry on - I wanted to make one clarification, "Where is the line drawn". When you could not answer that question - you took it as if I was still trying to push the issue and cause trouble. When really I just wanted to clarify to prevent it from happening again - another thing Kaylee was unclear on. And yet again, you can check the logs for this. I asked multiple times, "Where is the line drawn".

But alas, instead of explaining that, you gagged me, and Ralconn yet again. And encouraged us to take it to the forums..

Fine, whatever, here we are at the forums. But this won't accomplish anything. It appears that Drunken has already sided with Kaylee on this. Naturally, you will be biased in her favor. This is expected of you as the server owner. And I don't blame you for that. You chose your admins as you saw fit and you don't want to believe that perhaps maybe one of your admins may have a flaw. I know how this from experience, having been admin of various servers in the past.

I guess the only thing I can say really is that from now on when Kaylee is in game...I will record to demo from the moment I join the server. So in case this dispute ever rises again - and not just between her and I, but for anyone on the server who runs into this. Because as you know, I am a regular on the server, I play daily. I donate as well because I want this server to be the best it can be. It honestly is number 1 on my list for TF2 and I can safely say that I don't play on any other server besides this.

I just hope you will take step back at look at it from an outside perspective rather than siding with your admins so quickly. That way you can determine how "out of line" I am going if this situation arises again. Clearly there are people who are in favor of my defense, and then there's Kaylee...but only you can make the ultimate decision.

And hopefully this post won't be a waste of my time and go in vain...maybe you will read it through and give it heavy thought. And if not...oh well I tried.