PEOPLE ARE NOT BORN GAY

[AlarEnsis]

I mean, people could, but I'd say that'd be rare. Why? Because being gay isn't helpful when passing on genes... Therefore, being "born" (genetically speaking, at least) should be a rare occurrence.

My 2 cents.

[glouch]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternal_birth_order_and_male_sexual_orientation

That has nothing to do with genetics.

Nobody said that you can't turn gay from a shitty childhood, just that you aren't born with a sexual orientation.

one theory claims that the birth order affects birth rate because of the condition of the womb during development for children after the first one.

obviously there's nothing conclusive, but evidence seems to point towards the fact that genetics will give you a PREDISPOSITION to developing a certain sexuality. So no, people are not born gay, but they're born with certain factors that could influence homosexuality. It's a typical case of the nature vs nurture debate, and as is usually the case, it's a little bit of both.

as for being gay and its effect on passing on genes, I remember reading something about that, lemme see if I can dig it up...

[OmegaZero_Alpha]

But even a predisposition doesn't determine destiny. You could say that serial killers have genetic predispositions, but they weren't born a killer.

And I've yet to see an objective reason of why it is considered right. (read this knowing that I have nothing against gay people)

[Fides]

I'm gay. I have no clue if it was genetic, or something that came out of how I was raised, but it's really something that ISN'T easy to say "Born gay!" or "Became gay!" or whatever.

[raptor777777]

I'm gay. I have no clue if it was genetic, or something that came out of how I was raised, but it's really something that ISN'T easy to say "Born gay!" or "Became gay!" or whatever.

Came out of how I was raised = became gay.

[Fides]

It's not that simple.

[glouch]

But even a predisposition doesn't determine destiny. You could say that serial killers have genetic predispositions, but they weren't born a killer.

And I've yet to see an objective reason of why it is considered right. (read this knowing that I have nothing against gay people)

True. I think I interpreted the OP's post as meaning that being gay has absolutely nothing to do with genetics, which I don't think is true.

[Drbumpy]

I'm gay. I have no clue if it was genetic, or something that came out of how I was raised, but it's really something that ISN'T easy to say "Born gay!" or "Became gay!" or whatever.

Came out of how I was raised = became gay.

why are you still breathing

[KockEyedNerd]

You're a doctor bumpy, you are the one who gets to pull the plug and tell raptors family about their great loss.

[glouch]

You're a doctor bumpy, you are the one who gets to pull the plug and tell raptors family about their great loss.

Not only is he a doctor but he also has a boctorate.