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    +Rep on Profile Page


    Oh this dumb shit just irritates the shit out of me. I hate asking people if they have a rep thread and they're like yeah, look at my profile. At first, I expected to find a link to a sourceop thread or something similar. Instead ofcourse is a few comments noting how "great" a trader is and how "nice" he is. Then one guy got mad at me for refusing to sell him buds saying he had more than enough "rep"

    Let me just say it as clearly as I can profile page comments are not rep because you can just delete bad rep. Period, end of story. I learned this a bit earlier because I had put a -rep on someone's profile, forgetting ofcourse that you can just go in and delete any comment you want. Later, guy re adds me and sayin bunch of garbage and i double check the profile and sure enough the comment is gone.

    Oh and I hate this new trend of people asking you to give them +rep on their profile page after a regular trade. No, you're not gonna get any rep because we trade 1 refined metal and a strange weapon. Now, more than half the pages I visit have these pseudo- reps on their page and even have the nerve to call themselves trusted sellers. Just cuz you're not a scammer doesn't make you a trusted seller.

    Finally, just because you're a donator doesn't make you a trusted middleman. Oh wow you paid 5 bucks in a month to a server you frequent alot. Ok so you're not a deadbeat but that doesn't mean imma let you hold my burning flames merryweather cuz you say "Hey dont worry I wont scam you, promise" How bout you forward me my buyout first then we talk about promises......

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    Having a rep thread can be used by scammers for impersonation and I find it troublesome to manage. People also tend not to bother looking through every comment on a rep thread as it is time consuming waiting for the next page to load so most of the -rep is missed anyway (if anyone left -rep on your thread).

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    a-tasty- you are a dumbshit.

    Profile and thread rep can both be manipulated. So you have to evaluate each carefully. Look at the comments and who left them. What were they for? I can point to just as many "meaningless" reps in these threads.

    How many people here have impersonators that link their reps? Countless.

    I dont have a rep thread... I use my profile. How many impersonators do I have? ZERO. I can also back up my rep with my ebay seller feedback.. guess those 2500 sales dont count either?

    It cracks me up when folks like you write my rep doesnt count because it is on my profile. Especially, when Ive bought and sold more unusuals than you and your friends combined.

    I agree though... rep should not be left for a normal trade. Cash transactions only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reaper0268wtf
    a-tasty- you are a dumbshit.


    I agree though... rep should not be left for a normal trade. Cash transactions only.
    Agreed, for the longest time I asked for rep ONLY when involving paypal, now it has expanded to middle manning. Still, anything involving money or absolute trust (such as trading me your items in confidence) deserves a rep comment, though i had a long three day discussion of terms with the guy who wanted my ghosts TC and he was polite and awesome, so i repped him. A fetti for a fetti? Not rep worthy.

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    meh i dont think so dude, whenever i do a good trade, i used to rep, regardless if its cash or not, cuz to me unusuals have cash value and when trading well, thats just like a business dela that went on, so i leave my business card to the other party and they do the same, good business

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    yeah its irritating finding +rep for simple weapons trade and even middle-manning. Rep should be only be used for real money transactions because this is were the high risk is. Although you make good points on why profile rep is not good (person can just delete rep) I do preffer profile rep simply because its with 24/7 all year round, no mods/forums can just delete/ban unfairly then your rep page with be no more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reaper0268wtf
    Profile and thread rep can both be manipulated.
    What

    Profile rep is not rep. It's fine that you're a trader that can be trusted, but your profile isn't something that supports that. Profile rep is the hallmark of scammers and sharks, as it can be faked, negative stuff deleted. The fact you don't have a rep thread that points to your real profile is a safety measure your customers are missing.

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    problem?

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    what pisses me off more than profile rep is '+rep great trader very fast thx!!!!' or 'best trader ev4rrrrrrrr don't hesitatte to do busness with him!'
    is it that hard to say '+rep bought a pair of buds, he went first. thanks!' or 'he middlemanned a couple hats for me, went well!'

    i have always explained what the trade was for when i posted rep. deals of $100+ mean much more than 100 '+rep thx' comments to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDopp
    Quote Originally Posted by reaper0268wtf
    Profile and thread rep can both be manipulated.
    What

    Profile rep is not rep. It's fine that you're a trader that can be trusted, but your profile isn't something that supports that. Profile rep is the hallmark of scammers and sharks, as it can be faked, negative stuff deleted. The fact you don't have a rep thread that points to your real profile is a safety measure your customers are missing.
    I understand your point and the example daemon gave demonstrates a scammers rep. Yes, it is total BS. Each person's rep needs to be weighed and measured based on the remarks left and by whom, not by where it is located.

    The blanket statement "it is not rep" is only an opinion. I could just as easily say SOP rep is not rep, but I'm not that stupid and blind, even though imposters link it left and right. They put links in their profile pages. It's also the "hallmark of scammers and sharks."

    How many scammers and sharks have had actual rep threads here? Where was the safety measure then? Oh joy.

    We can agree to disagree... I understand my profile rep means nothing here. But it only means nothing HERE. I chose not to put a rep thread here to avoid imposters. With the exception of my hijack, still zero imposters to date. How many of you have had imposters. How many people have been ripped off or scammed because of your rep threads. Countless.

    To say my profile does not reflect myself as a trusted trader is an ignorant statement. A great number of admins, and too many well respected members have left rep on my profile. Those comments are only worthless to you. Not everyone needs the gods of SOP to validate their worthiness.

    Either way.. this argument will always be moot and have folks on both sides. SOP is not the governing authority on all things TF2. No offense intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daem0n
    what pisses me off more than profile rep is '+rep great trader very fast thx!!!!' or 'best trader ev4rrrrrrrr don't hesitatte to do busness with him!'
    is it that hard to say '+rep bought a pair of buds, he went first. thanks!' or 'he middlemanned a couple hats for me, went well!'

    i have always explained what the trade was for when i posted rep. deals of $100+ mean much more than 100 '+rep thx' comments to me.
    I agree.. and I do the same, but we can't control the comments other folks leave. :/
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