[shenryyr]

ehh idk there have been a lot of good things said here, but i just wanted to put in my two cents. I definitely do not think you should get rid of stats. For me, at least, i find it interesting to go and look around at stuff like what maps i die the most on, my 2nd favorite weapon, the player you've killed the most, etc. etc. And it's also cool to see the same stuff about other ppl as well. So, they should be kept.

As for teamplay, i feel that ppl are always going to turtle. Getting rid of stats is not the answer to that. Personally, if someone is dumb enough to walk by that demo who's camping in the sewers and die 4 or 5 times, then they deserve to die. However, after all it is called team FORTRESS. So turtling is inevitable. Now, obviously sometimes it goes wayy too far, but there's not really anything you can do about it. And, i also feel that DF has helped out by changing the # of points you get for flag capture. It's now something ridiculous like 50?? (or i thought it was)--so that should prod ppl to try to cap the flag.

But yes, i wouldn't mind not seeing the reminder that i just lost 25 points to that n00b who was lucky and got me =D

Recap: keep stats, but kill the automatic updates

Mmm, good points. Indeed I know speedy likes those axes, and people can find him atop the axemurderer list. That's a /fun/ statistic.

On that note, why not leave all that kind of stats intact -- who kills who the most, favorite weapons, most kills with each weapon, on each map, k/death ratios, etcetcetc... But get rid of the main stat, the overall ranking. That's what people whore for, and it really doesn't have any meaning. And besides, without that one item, all those notices on how many points you get for doing anything would just stop.

Perhaps in-game notices could be other things, like dominating/rampaging/unstoppable/killingspree/godlike/etc for getting several kills without dying. It's a good indication of who's playing well in the game.