[jerclay]

this is getting funny, post more

I was wondering how long until you'd stop defending the reasoning you gave after it was shown flawed, and just resort to belitting the idea in general. Four pages. It's easy to predict if (that was the first reply), the hard part is predicting when.

The definition of exploit (as recognized by SourceOP servers) is an unintentional feature in a game that may or may not give a player non-standard characteristics or advantages.

Oh please. I can't even begin to cover the gray area there. How are headshots through the slats in the bridge roof any different from shooting through the slats in the battlement roof in strict terms of "unintended features?" Because at least a couple of your mods have used it against me. If you try really hard, I guess there's differences in difficulty to counter, but as I stated, that's a gray area.

And the advantage of being able to spray stickies across the map without people being able to openly fire back from any but extremely limited angles in non-standard for TF2."

And see, this is exactly why I keep replying to this. You act as if it's over, when it's not. Per that statement, it's an "exploit" to do the exact same thing from the opposite side as well. Even though it has been stated in this very thread that it's ok. You're indirectly proving how vague that statement is, and validated my concern that the reasoning for my ban was personal.

In fact, if Robin replies to ANY of you and says that this window was placed there for any reason other than to give one team a clear advantage then I call for his ban to become permanent in the interest of justice.

And this is proof of how much you understand the issue. Both sides have similar structures that allow the same thing; no team has a clear advantage with it. For that matter, if Robin replies back that it's a legitimate use, will you concede you're wrong? Or is this just a one-way road?

You were banned for one day and instead of just taking it you decide to start a huge flame war and make it even worse.

Because as OmegaZero_Alpha has exemplified, it isn't over. He's insisting that I should be permabanned for things other mods have stated is ok here. I was banned for one day, fine; that has NOTHING to do as to why this is kept up. It's still here becuase I could be permabanned for vague reasons, and OmegaZero_Alpha has proved it.