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The problem with the US and its citizens is they have become fucking pussies. They cry the second someone upsets them, they need to man up and grow the thick skin again. Political correctness has turned the US into a bunch of Sissy La la's.

Its not like we are dealing with Console kiddies here, these people can at least operate a PC, they should be playing at a level above that of a gibbon, which is a monkey for those who dont know what a gibbon is. If you dont know what a monkey is, well.. buy a XBox or PS3, more your style.

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I sort of understand your frustration. People shouldn't be retarded. Unfortunately, you can't change that. One problem with 2fort is that it attracts a lot of idiots. If you play 2fort your entire life, you'll probably still be pretty bad, or at least a lot worse than if you played all the maps your whole life. 2fort also attracts the goofing off/relaxing crowd, since turtling is so easy and people can do what they want. Sometimes I go on 2fort just to be a battlements suicide bottling demo or a punch heavy in the sewers.

Yes-people should be doing the objective, but there's no law that says they have to. 2fort especially is suited to ignoring the objective. IT'S A SHITTY MAP. My advice is to:
Play on some of the other sourceop servers (eg valve maps 1 or 2) - the quality of play is waaaaaaaaaaay higher.
Do some scrims and shit if you're supersrs

Bitching at idiots and griefing your own team is doing nothing, as I'm sure you have realized at this point.