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Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer
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Speedy Wrote:
bskll Wrote:if a wallhacker "simluates aiming" by adjusting crosshair after the enemy reveals, then its not really all that different than having a good reflex, which negates the advantage of wall hacking.
Not quite. There's a difference between having a good reflex and knowing when someone is going to pop out. The biggest problem I had with the scout was that you adjusted your aim as he came out, as opposed to a split second after. It certainly looked like you did not make a reflex shot, but a predicted shot. However, it's very difficult to tell the difference and I'm done debating this point anyway.

Quote:now as for the soldier, one thing should be pretty certain, rocket jump sounds pretty distinct to me. I hear a single, muffled rocket with a pause of about 2 secs, that's a suspect rocketjump sound to me. even among the firefight sounds downstairs, a rocket with pause of about 2 secs should be pretty disntinct, moreso if its followed by shots to your left side. Plus with source engine, the positional audio should enable you to determine where the sound is coming from. In this case, i head it coming from left of me, so i suspected a RJ into that part of battlement.
That's true, but it doesn't satisfy my suspicions. All rocket fire would have been coming from your left as you left the spawn and there was more than one soldier fighting down there; if it was simply a single soldier jumping up, I would have not found this suspicious. However, between the battling below and the you beelined directly to him with your machete, there was more than enough suspicion to go around.

I guess my biggest problem with that scene wasn't that you detected a soldier on the battlements so much as you were completely dedicated to killing him without a precious visual. The moment you left the respawn you tossed your jarate and with no indicators (like a clipping rocket launcher) that I saw and you marched right over there without pause or question and started swinging. It certainly seemed you had more than a hunch to go on.

if you wanna see good reflex snipering, go watch 'yay. he'll show you a thing or two.

the beauty of tf2 is that more than direct visual indicators are available. otherwise, demoman and soldiers would be pretty useless.

i'm almost certain that there was 2 soldiers down stairs that day. One was wielding a DH, the other a regular launcher. I do believe that it was the regular launcher soldier who RJed onto the battlements.

you're probably thinking of me only knowing the soldier's presence after i refilled hp. I suspected of his presence before i entered re spawn.

rocket jumping sounds distinct from regular fighting rocket for me.

fighting rocket are fired in rapid succession, usually less than one second after each other. rocket jumping usually has about 2 secs between first and second rocket. That's how i tell them apart, it isn't perfect, but better safe than sorry.
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Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by Speedy - May 07, 2010, 09:04 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by Drunken F00l - May 08, 2010, 02:20 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by bskll - May 08, 2010, 03:36 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by ChaztheDemoman - May 08, 2010, 03:58 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by bskll - May 08, 2010, 04:09 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by unknown - May 08, 2010, 11:46 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by bskll - May 09, 2010, 06:49 AM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by Speedy - May 09, 2010, 06:52 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by bskll - May 10, 2010, 03:15 AM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by Speedy - May 10, 2010, 12:25 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by bskll - May 10, 2010, 01:08 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by Deadbolt - May 10, 2010, 01:50 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by LTDEATH - May 10, 2010, 04:43 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by unknown - May 10, 2010, 05:22 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by Deadbolt - May 10, 2010, 06:45 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by ibby - May 10, 2010, 07:17 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by bskll - May 13, 2010, 05:55 AM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by Rostov - May 13, 2010, 09:11 AM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by Speedy - May 13, 2010, 11:57 AM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by WombRaider - May 13, 2010, 03:41 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by OmegaZero_Alpha - May 13, 2010, 03:47 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by bskll - May 13, 2010, 03:50 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by Speedy - May 13, 2010, 04:30 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by bskll - May 13, 2010, 05:18 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by WombRaider - May 13, 2010, 06:03 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by Speedy - May 13, 2010, 10:16 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by bskll - May 13, 2010, 11:29 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by WombRaider - May 14, 2010, 01:48 AM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by Deadbolt - May 14, 2010, 01:53 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by jwstohr - May 14, 2010, 02:04 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by Drunken F00l - May 15, 2010, 02:11 AM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by Rostov - May 15, 2010, 07:41 AM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by bskll - May 15, 2010, 07:56 AM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by Leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee - May 28, 2010, 01:17 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by Butane - May 28, 2010, 03:22 PM
Banning of |)(SPQR)(| Engineer - by jaypeaem - May 28, 2010, 11:54 PM

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