Mar 31, 2011, 01:34 PM
it was me, i'm the one norbule is talking about.
i did it with this, which is a slightly modified version of a couple of the scripts found in the gotfrag thread:
cl_yawspeed -350
alias "+charge" "+attack2; bind a +right; bind d +left"
alias "-charge" " -attack2; bind a +moveleft; bind d +moveright; -left; -right"
alias chargetoggle "usecharge"
alias usecharge "bind mouse2 +charge; alias chargetoggle useattack"
alias useattack "bind mouse2 +attack2; alias chargetoggle usecharge"
bind rctrl "chargetoggle"
In the gotfrag thread I said it was cheating. After thinking about it, I don't think it is.
If some nerd is using an Xbox controller to play the game, then he can do this without any type of script. He wouldn't be cheating, as it isn't something he can control. If he can do it, why shouldn't I be able to? When valve capped the +left and +right commands they still gave an advantage to anyone using those commands while charging. This script does basically the same thing, the only difference is the yawspeed value, which valve has capped positively at 210. So even after valve "patched" the old scripts, they still left them completely useable and effective
Besides, you're not lookign at the bigger picture here: when you use the targe, you give up your sticky launcher. I was BARELY breaking even in my k/d ratio when I was doing this, and I'd say 90% of the kills I got were from pipes anyway. More often than not, it got me killed, and I suspect it would get most other players killed too. Let's face it: none of us are SolidSnake.
As far as how DF sees it, I actually asked him about the script specifically about a week ago. I asked, "should I be banning for this?" To which he essentially said "meh, maybe ask them to stop." I dunno about you, but to me that seemed like apathy concerning its use. Since then I've seen a number of people using it in the server. The charge is still vulnerable to the same types of weaknesses: airblast completely screws you up, natascha destroys you, any rocket blast stops you dead, and ramps still send you flying. Not to mention, sometimes the script breaks and you get stuck moving right or left.
I think the only admin who would actually legitimately be upset about this is Hell-met since he got killed by it once and threw a fit. That being said, If the people here decide that it's cheatmode and not grayareamode I'll stop. The "for" arguments and the "against" arguments are best sumed up in the gotfrag thread though.
Keep in mind Snarf doesn't fucking count.
i did it with this, which is a slightly modified version of a couple of the scripts found in the gotfrag thread:
cl_yawspeed -350
alias "+charge" "+attack2; bind a +right; bind d +left"
alias "-charge" " -attack2; bind a +moveleft; bind d +moveright; -left; -right"
alias chargetoggle "usecharge"
alias usecharge "bind mouse2 +charge; alias chargetoggle useattack"
alias useattack "bind mouse2 +attack2; alias chargetoggle usecharge"
bind rctrl "chargetoggle"
In the gotfrag thread I said it was cheating. After thinking about it, I don't think it is.
If some nerd is using an Xbox controller to play the game, then he can do this without any type of script. He wouldn't be cheating, as it isn't something he can control. If he can do it, why shouldn't I be able to? When valve capped the +left and +right commands they still gave an advantage to anyone using those commands while charging. This script does basically the same thing, the only difference is the yawspeed value, which valve has capped positively at 210. So even after valve "patched" the old scripts, they still left them completely useable and effective
Besides, you're not lookign at the bigger picture here: when you use the targe, you give up your sticky launcher. I was BARELY breaking even in my k/d ratio when I was doing this, and I'd say 90% of the kills I got were from pipes anyway. More often than not, it got me killed, and I suspect it would get most other players killed too. Let's face it: none of us are SolidSnake.
As far as how DF sees it, I actually asked him about the script specifically about a week ago. I asked, "should I be banning for this?" To which he essentially said "meh, maybe ask them to stop." I dunno about you, but to me that seemed like apathy concerning its use. Since then I've seen a number of people using it in the server. The charge is still vulnerable to the same types of weaknesses: airblast completely screws you up, natascha destroys you, any rocket blast stops you dead, and ramps still send you flying. Not to mention, sometimes the script breaks and you get stuck moving right or left.
I think the only admin who would actually legitimately be upset about this is Hell-met since he got killed by it once and threw a fit. That being said, If the people here decide that it's cheatmode and not grayareamode I'll stop. The "for" arguments and the "against" arguments are best sumed up in the gotfrag thread though.
Keep in mind Snarf doesn't fucking count.
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