May 27, 2009, 08:48 AM
Since ppl seem upset about this and this is a more appropriate place to discuss it, this is what happened on this particular occasion:
Duplex joined the server (that I had been silently watching for about 3 hours already). One player that I have previously had a problem with who likes to abuse votekick, started votekick on Duplex before he had time to get out of spawn. It didn't pass.
Played a round, lost a round, Duplex said "This team sucks; I don't think anyone knows what they're doing."
This made his team angry and they votekicked him. He got a temp ban and I spoke privately with him. I told him if he came back to keep it constructive or don't say anything at all. I then told him that if he caused any trouble, I would have to ban him for a while.
Duplex apologized,waited out his temp ban, returned and played the game without any problems. He switched classes when it was needed for better class balance and he played well with members of his team. They won this round.
He muted the guys who were previously giving him a hard time. These players (one of them Tarquin) continued to make comments to Duplex after everything he said which was disturbing the server.
If Duplex said "Alright, we can do this guys", Tarquin would said "shut up Duplex, shut up Duplex" over and over again. I warned him again to drop it and play the game. It was annoying everyone.
Next round, it's still going on. Tarquin started a votekick on Duplex for mic spamming. I said in admin chat, "He's not mic spamming. Anyone who continues to abuse votekick will be kicked."
This was the 3rd time that day I had ppl trying to abuse votekick on #2.
At this point, Tarquin proceeded to publicly argue and debate with me. I had already said the issue was over.
Map change: they continue this once again and I ask them to stop once again so others can play the game. Tarquin and 2 other players proceed to argue over the mic with me so I temp banned them to diffuse the situation. Duplex left to play on another server (I silently followed him to be sure he didn't cause trouble there) and #2 went back to playing the game.
The next day, one of the other players tried to votekick Duplex once again as soon as he saw him join the server. He also verbally attacked a regular for votekicking him afk earlier that day (and he was afk in spec for 10+ minutes). He repeatedly causes trouble and the next time I catch him, his ban will be longer. Tarquin made the unfortunate mistake of joining up with this guy on the night he got temp-banned.
All he had to do was shut up and let me handle it.
Regarding Duplex and me personally, he is a repeat offender and I treat him as such. He received a temp ban for saying "this team sucks; I don't think they know what they're doing". People say that every day and they don't get banned.
If DF decides he's trouble and wants to perma-ban him, then that is his decision to make. Until then, I have to treat him with the same level of fairness that everyone else gets. When he's getting votekicked before he's left spawn by a guy who repeatedly spams votekick on other people he doesn't like, then I have a problem with that.
Duplex may have a bad past but on this particular night, he was being harassed and griefed by 3 other players. Understanding that sometimes Duplex does things to ask for this type of treatment, I went lenient on the 3 players, giving them many warnings.
When they continued to disrupt the server, I got rid of them. Other than his temp ban and a verbal warning from me, I didn't do anything else to Duplex because he didn't do anything to warrant it. The situation had already been dealt with. Some other players chose not to let it go and for that, they were reprimanded as well.
Tarquin was upset that he got banned. It's understandable. Most people don't like to be banned from a server they enjoy playing on. But because he says the name "Half-Duplex", it becomes a big deal. If he had said "Billy Bob" or "Joe the Plumber", no one else would have replied to that thread like that.
Also, lol @ the Wieks story.
Duplex joined the server (that I had been silently watching for about 3 hours already). One player that I have previously had a problem with who likes to abuse votekick, started votekick on Duplex before he had time to get out of spawn. It didn't pass.
Played a round, lost a round, Duplex said "This team sucks; I don't think anyone knows what they're doing."
This made his team angry and they votekicked him. He got a temp ban and I spoke privately with him. I told him if he came back to keep it constructive or don't say anything at all. I then told him that if he caused any trouble, I would have to ban him for a while.
Duplex apologized,waited out his temp ban, returned and played the game without any problems. He switched classes when it was needed for better class balance and he played well with members of his team. They won this round.
He muted the guys who were previously giving him a hard time. These players (one of them Tarquin) continued to make comments to Duplex after everything he said which was disturbing the server.
If Duplex said "Alright, we can do this guys", Tarquin would said "shut up Duplex, shut up Duplex" over and over again. I warned him again to drop it and play the game. It was annoying everyone.
Next round, it's still going on. Tarquin started a votekick on Duplex for mic spamming. I said in admin chat, "He's not mic spamming. Anyone who continues to abuse votekick will be kicked."
This was the 3rd time that day I had ppl trying to abuse votekick on #2.
At this point, Tarquin proceeded to publicly argue and debate with me. I had already said the issue was over.
Map change: they continue this once again and I ask them to stop once again so others can play the game. Tarquin and 2 other players proceed to argue over the mic with me so I temp banned them to diffuse the situation. Duplex left to play on another server (I silently followed him to be sure he didn't cause trouble there) and #2 went back to playing the game.
The next day, one of the other players tried to votekick Duplex once again as soon as he saw him join the server. He also verbally attacked a regular for votekicking him afk earlier that day (and he was afk in spec for 10+ minutes). He repeatedly causes trouble and the next time I catch him, his ban will be longer. Tarquin made the unfortunate mistake of joining up with this guy on the night he got temp-banned.
All he had to do was shut up and let me handle it.
Regarding Duplex and me personally, he is a repeat offender and I treat him as such. He received a temp ban for saying "this team sucks; I don't think they know what they're doing". People say that every day and they don't get banned.
If DF decides he's trouble and wants to perma-ban him, then that is his decision to make. Until then, I have to treat him with the same level of fairness that everyone else gets. When he's getting votekicked before he's left spawn by a guy who repeatedly spams votekick on other people he doesn't like, then I have a problem with that.
Duplex may have a bad past but on this particular night, he was being harassed and griefed by 3 other players. Understanding that sometimes Duplex does things to ask for this type of treatment, I went lenient on the 3 players, giving them many warnings.
When they continued to disrupt the server, I got rid of them. Other than his temp ban and a verbal warning from me, I didn't do anything else to Duplex because he didn't do anything to warrant it. The situation had already been dealt with. Some other players chose not to let it go and for that, they were reprimanded as well.
Tarquin was upset that he got banned. It's understandable. Most people don't like to be banned from a server they enjoy playing on. But because he says the name "Half-Duplex", it becomes a big deal. If he had said "Billy Bob" or "Joe the Plumber", no one else would have replied to that thread like that.
Also, lol @ the Wieks story.