Apr 24, 2009, 05:02 PM
Agua, the problem is that people just aren't willing to take pubs that seriously. A color clock system really isn't necessary because there's rarely a place you're holding that has more than 3 or 4 choke points, not to mention any team will go over naming different parts of maps just to make sure they're all on the same page. Classes and where they're attacking from is all well and good but its too much to keep track of with so many people. If you want to comm that bad, just focus on immediate threats or classes with medics pushing forward. And yeah good teams will attack and retreat together. It's rare on pubs you see people retreat at all.
When you really boil everything down though, it's still a public server. Some people don't want all that. Some just want to hadouken people, or go heavy boxing, or shoot dudes with flares, or play whatever they want. Just as long as you don't have some kind of expectation of everyone cooperating on a pub then you're fine.
If it's so easy, feel free to get 5 of your friends together and try it, though judging by your previous posts, finding 5 friends might be tough for you. TWL is still preseason and the CEVO OCZ tourn is taking signups. CEVO will be rolling around soonish. I agree it takes time, dedication, and skill, but those traits are a large generalization of a lot of things a team needs. And fuckin lol @ thinking Guild Wars will relate to TF2. GL if you try but I expect an answer like "I don't want to compete but I would totally kick ass if I did."
When you really boil everything down though, it's still a public server. Some people don't want all that. Some just want to hadouken people, or go heavy boxing, or shoot dudes with flares, or play whatever they want. Just as long as you don't have some kind of expectation of everyone cooperating on a pub then you're fine.
Furious Wrote:Adder Wrote:I think the biggest thing would you to just start your own team so you can see what they are talking about firsthand instead of arguing with them about something you have no experience with.
Get over yourselves. Playing comp is not that hard, at all. I played something similar in another game(Guildwars) and it was 8v8. 6v6 would not be that hard to get down contrary to popular belief. Less people to keep track of imo. Playing comp simply requires dedication, time, and skill, nothing more.
(Our rank was around 200)
If it's so easy, feel free to get 5 of your friends together and try it, though judging by your previous posts, finding 5 friends might be tough for you. TWL is still preseason and the CEVO OCZ tourn is taking signups. CEVO will be rolling around soonish. I agree it takes time, dedication, and skill, but those traits are a large generalization of a lot of things a team needs. And fuckin lol @ thinking Guild Wars will relate to TF2. GL if you try but I expect an answer like "I don't want to compete but I would totally kick ass if I did."