Feb 18, 2015, 06:42 AM
The rep wasn't left on an alt account - this account added me http://steamcommunity.com/id/SillyG/ (connected with sourceop forum user "agentg", currently banned on this sate). I kept him added for possible future trades back then (as I mostly do with people if trade goes well and they ask me to). I can provide proof for the trade happening with this acc., see below
I might remove him now because he is banned here (I don't know the reason, but he loses part of his trustworthiness anyway) but we need to sort this problem here first
Try to look on this issue from my (normal user's) point of view:
I was selling some keys, only through soucreop forum topic I created. A guy adds me to buy keys - so I expect he came to the topic on this site, because there is no other way he could get to the topic. I ask him for his sourceop page - and he provides it. He got some rep here which means he did some trades before, so that's corrrect. I check oter ifno (steamrep-clean, tf2 hours played, games owned, etc.) -> all shows it's not a new account or scammer, so lets trade. He goes first, everything goes well (transaction happens, I just found it both in paypal and steam trade history, 60 pages back
can provide if wanted) so let's add the reps here since everything went ok. I send it (and that's the one reason that leads to why I have already over 3 hours on fixing this infractions issue), he didn't (that happens, from about 15 trades I did only about 1/3 repped me) then goodbye.
About 2 months after I post it I get the PM that it gets declined, I got infraction for it, and thus, here I am.
So: I expected he came from here, because I don't sell anywhere else - (according to you, he didn't). So how he did? Asked a friend?
I Don't know about any other option how he could find out I sell keys.
Why I thought he came from here?
a) I don't sell anywhere else
b) He provided steamrep topic link -> his steamrep topic was valid; so I added another +rep for a valid trade that happened.
How to prevent hese issues in future?
What to do on my side:
I still don't think I did anything wrong, to check account activity of the trader is not a rule.
I will do it from now anyway, to be "sure" they come from here.
How to fix this on your (admin's) side:
a) Put "make sure the other trader with his account connected to this forum has looked to the trade selling topic via his logged account" in the rules before sending a rep.
Does it look stupid? Yes. But that's what bot gave me infractioin for.
b) lock old rep topics (autolock 1 year? possible user unlock when becoming active again / on demand (more work for admins) OR making a new one (old rep isn't much valid anyway, but it adds a small bit to creditibility). If he didn't have the rep topic here, I wouldn't add a reputation.
Also in this case - I'd like to have my current infraction I got for this removed. It would expire next month, but It would count toward the total infraction-limit before you get banned (1 of 30 I believe?) and it feels injust towards me. (I'm morally very firm and would never do anything "evil" and I'm also studying law school, so injustice is osmething I hate )
I might remove him now because he is banned here (I don't know the reason, but he loses part of his trustworthiness anyway) but we need to sort this problem here first
Try to look on this issue from my (normal user's) point of view:
I was selling some keys, only through soucreop forum topic I created. A guy adds me to buy keys - so I expect he came to the topic on this site, because there is no other way he could get to the topic. I ask him for his sourceop page - and he provides it. He got some rep here which means he did some trades before, so that's corrrect. I check oter ifno (steamrep-clean, tf2 hours played, games owned, etc.) -> all shows it's not a new account or scammer, so lets trade. He goes first, everything goes well (transaction happens, I just found it both in paypal and steam trade history, 60 pages back
can provide if wanted) so let's add the reps here since everything went ok. I send it (and that's the one reason that leads to why I have already over 3 hours on fixing this infractions issue), he didn't (that happens, from about 15 trades I did only about 1/3 repped me) then goodbye.About 2 months after I post it I get the PM that it gets declined, I got infraction for it, and thus, here I am.
So: I expected he came from here, because I don't sell anywhere else - (according to you, he didn't). So how he did? Asked a friend?
I Don't know about any other option how he could find out I sell keys.
Why I thought he came from here?
a) I don't sell anywhere else
b) He provided steamrep topic link -> his steamrep topic was valid; so I added another +rep for a valid trade that happened.
How to prevent hese issues in future?
What to do on my side:
I still don't think I did anything wrong, to check account activity of the trader is not a rule.
I will do it from now anyway, to be "sure" they come from here.
How to fix this on your (admin's) side:
a) Put "make sure the other trader with his account connected to this forum has looked to the trade selling topic via his logged account" in the rules before sending a rep.
Does it look stupid? Yes. But that's what bot gave me infractioin for.
b) lock old rep topics (autolock 1 year? possible user unlock when becoming active again / on demand (more work for admins) OR making a new one (old rep isn't much valid anyway, but it adds a small bit to creditibility). If he didn't have the rep topic here, I wouldn't add a reputation.
Also in this case - I'd like to have my current infraction I got for this removed. It would expire next month, but It would count toward the total infraction-limit before you get banned (1 of 30 I believe?) and it feels injust towards me. (I'm morally very firm and would never do anything "evil" and I'm also studying law school, so injustice is osmething I hate
)