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		What is your perspective on the discussion here?
http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/kmz...ma/c2lk4zg
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What side of the issue do you fall on? Is it good haggling to convince a buyer (often a kid in TF2) to sell you a high-tier hat for pennies on the dollar? Or is it immoral and/or bad business?
Personally I think it's closer to being a con-man than it is to being a good businessman. I find it hard to trust buyers who make their money tricking others or not being at least somewhat fair about value.
Thoughts?
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		It's not a scam to buy something straightforward for a price agreed on by both parties. Period.
	
	
	
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		Definately not a scam, if both parties agree, he did nothing wrong.
Regardless, it's shady as fuck, I wouldn't want to own a hat that I knew I bought from someone who paid a fraction of market value
	
	
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		Yeah, good point. I took the word "scamming" out of the title, that's harsher than I meant. I don't think anyone thinks it's as bad as a scam when the transaction was agreed and fulfilled.
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A little harsh, maybe? But funny at least.
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		reddit...
	
	
	
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		Snarf Wrote:reddit...
this. lol upvote.
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		anyone here,would do the same,no doubt, they just saying different to look like a generous person.
another thing, 20 dollars for some pixels aint bad, 450 for it, even better.
	
	
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		Really, you would do that?
Every time I've been in this situation, I have no desire to rip someone off. I think the 40+% of conservative value of the item is entirely reasonable, and I'd feel terrible otherwise. These are kids (frequently) and it's not fair to take advantage of them. 
I can understand getting a bargain that ensures you get a profit, with the risk of not being able to sell, etc. But it's certainly not honesty to hide the real value entirely and not even give them a "quicksale" value.
Is a couple hundred dollars worth getting people thinking you'll cut them off at any opportunity to make a dime? That doesn't sound like professional behavior to me. Is that really common in this community?
	
	
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		glouch Wrote:Snarf Wrote:reddit...
this. lol upvote.