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i'm just getting some shit off my chest - Retribution - Jun 13, 2008
I. Respect
1. Assholes, you can't go around picking out peoples weaknesses and making jokes about them all the time, I'm talking about Hellmet, DF and Omega, how would you like it if somebody made fun of how children turn you on, or how you can't speak to good, that isn't humor, that just plain sick
2. Admins, admins were chosen by the owner of the server, if you have a problem with them talk to DF, PM DF, but stop posting in the forums trying to start a mob, the admins are not our problem, and it makes you look like a coward
II. Stupidity
1. Hate, not everyone believes that same things you do, you wrong might be there right, so instead starting a fucking war, try to understand there position, try to make them understand yours, and you might even learn something, and through we grow(corny but true, don't take this line lightly)
2. Cowards, all of us are afraid of something, I'm afraid of rejection to the point where trying anything new makes me physically ill, yet i persist, being brave isn't not being afraid, its pushing forward while your afraid, and I'm insulted by the fact someone can be afraid of something in a video game, just because you die doesn't mean you die, get some damn balls already, get out there and kill something
3. Gays, ok i get that this may contradict what i said in II, 1, but i can't understand Homosexuality, to me sex is man+women=baby, and maybe I'm old fashion, but honestly, what is love, is the love you really feel for you mother, brother, or fiend really different from you lover, I'm mean don't you still want to protect them, to see them happy, sex is not love, is reproduction, a primal erg that keeps up from make ourselves extinct, but its be repressed, twisted, and hated, and now when it comes to light, were all confused by it, we may not be animals to some of you, but you can't ignore the similarities
i'm just getting some shit off my chest - Hell-met - Jun 13, 2008
Also homosexuals are usually the nicest people around, so shut the fuck up.
i'm just getting some shit off my chest - avy - Jun 13, 2008
Retribution Wrote:I. Respect
1. Assholes, you can't go around picking out peoples weaknesses and making jokes about them all the time, I'm talking about Hellmet, DF and Omega, how would you like it if somebody made fun of how children turn you on, or how you can't speak to good, that isn't humor, that just plain sick
Nothing to comment on this one, this seems to be between you and the aforementioned names.
Retribution Wrote:2. Admins, admins were chosen by the owner of the server, if you have a problem with them talk to DF, PM DF, but stop posting in the forums trying to start a mob, the admins are not our problem, and it makes you look like a coward
I disagree, the whole purpose behind the forums is communication. Some people feel that they were wrongfully banned and deserve an explanation. Take the matter with duplex, if he had not come onto the forums and started a fairly well thoughtout and somewhat CALM discussion the server would have lost a regular, if not more than one.
Retribution Wrote:II. Stupidity
1. Hate, not everyone believes that same things you do, you wrong might be there right, so instead starting a fucking war, try to understand there position, try to make them understand yours, and you might even learn something, and through we grow(corny but true, don't take this line lightly)
Your contradicting yourself here, you tell people who were banned from the server to suck it up but then you say that you want people to try and work things out. \0=
Retribution Wrote:2. Cowards, all of us are afraid of something, I'm afraid of rejection to the point where trying anything new makes me physically ill, yet i persist, being brave isn't not being afraid, its pushing forward while your afraid, and I'm insulted by the fact someone can be afraid of something in a video game, just because you die doesn't mean you die, get some damn balls already, get out there and kill something
lolwut?? I dont know where this came from or how you could arrive at this point so I'll leave it alone.
Retribution Wrote:3. Gays, ok i get that this may contradict what i said in II, 1, but i can't understand Homosexuality, to me sex is man+women=baby, and maybe I'm old fashion, but honestly, what is love, is the love you really feel for you mother, brother, or fiend really different from you lover, I'm mean don't you still want to protect them, to see them happy, sex is not love, is reproduction, a primal erg that keeps up from make ourselves extinct, but its be repressed, twisted, and hated, and now when it comes to light, were all confused by it, we may not be animals to some of you, but you can't ignore the similarities
Everyone is entitled to live their life the way they want. If thats homosexuality then whatever floats your boat. There is no sense in being intolerant or even ignorant of other peoples lifestyles. I also dont see where your really going with this statement either... Homosexuals are not saying that sex is love, thats just some recent fad that is slowly killing the humanity and decency of the current world. Sex is an expression of love. If a woman loves a woman then whats wrong with them having sex? If a man loves a man, then by all means, express yourself. I dont believe anyone is trying to force homosexuality on you. I think you just need to step off your soapbox and take a second look around and try to be more understanding.
i'm just getting some shit off my chest - TB - Jun 13, 2008
Retribution Wrote:2. Admins, admins were chosen by the owner of the server, if you have a problem with them talk to DF, PM DF, but stop posting in the forums trying to start a mob, the admins are not our problem, and it makes you look like a coward
avy Wrote:I disagree, the whole purpose behind the forums is communication. Some people feel that they were wrongfully banned and deserve an explanation. Take the matter with duplex, if he had not come onto the forums and started a fairly well thoughtout and somewhat CALM discussion the server would have lost a regular, if not more than one.
I agree here with avy. Wouldn't it be more of a coward to not talk to the person you had a problem with and go talk to someone else to solve the argument?
I wasn't there to see what happened, but it seems like Duplex did the right thing after the incident, he posted on the forum where everyone can see and post both sides(his and Kaylee's). People who had mixed feelings on the incident can read what happened and in the end they both made interesting points and came to a resolution. Seems fine to me.
i'm just getting some shit off my chest - Fides - Jun 13, 2008
avy Wrote:Retribution Wrote:3. Gays, ok i get that this may contradict what i said in II, 1, but i can't understand Homosexuality, to me sex is man+women=baby, and maybe I'm old fashion, but honestly, what is love, is the love you really feel for you mother, brother, or fiend really different from you lover, I'm mean don't you still want to protect them, to see them happy, sex is not love, is reproduction, a primal erg that keeps up from make ourselves extinct, but its be repressed, twisted, and hated, and now when it comes to light, were all confused by it, we may not be animals to some of you, but you can't ignore the similarities
Everyone is entitled to live their life the way they want. If thats homosexuality then whatever floats your boat. There is no sense in being intolerant or even ignorant of other peoples lifestyles. I also dont see where your really going with this statement either... Homosexuals are not saying that sex is love, thats just some recent fad that is slowly killing the humanity and decency of the current world. Sex is an expression of love. If a woman loves a woman then whats wrong with them having sex? If a man loves a man, then by all means, express yourself. I dont believe anyone is trying to force homosexuality on you. I think you just need to step off your soapbox and take a second look around and try to be more understanding.
Thank you.
EDIT: I'll just add in that this whole post really contradicts itself. One moment you're telling others to respect eachother and see things frolm other points of view, and the next you're saying gay people (which I'm one) are bad?
I was pretty confused when I noticed that I was looking at other guys, more interested in them than in women. It's not exactly a choice, and what should it matter if, instead of a female, I want to be with a male, regardless of the fact that we can't have children? Who the hell are you to define what is right and wrong?
i'm just getting some shit off my chest - Retribution - Jun 13, 2008
i don't expect any of you to understand, this is way above you, i get it
you guys are all now exhibiting what i was talking about in II,1 this is hate, i except that you have different opinions but you obviously don't accept that i have different opinion
to clear something up, i don't hate homosexuals, i hate homosexuality, to be more precise, i don't believe in it, i have no hate for anyone, even those who do horrible wrong, forgiveness is easier then revenge
i have not actually contradicted anything, in this, your reading between the lines and seeing a message i was not trying to portray, the message you want me to portray
and hellmet, if you think your funny, your not, you appear to just be flaming everyone, sarcasm doesn't translate well on the Internet, you need something visual to make it like "lol" or a laughing smily
i'm just getting some shit off my chest - dynamo152 - Jun 13, 2008
Quote:you guys are all now exhibiting what i was talking about in II,1 this is hate
Ok so, this is the flame bucket, and you can say whatever you want, but by posting you are opening yourself up for criticism. The criticism isn't necessarily directed at you, it's directed at your argument.
Quote:i don't expect any of you to understand, this is way above you, i get it
You shouldn't say that your argument is above ppl, you should listen to what they say.
Quote:i except that you have different opinions but you obviously don't accept that i have different opinion
I agree. Everyone is most definitely entitled to their own opinions. However, the thing is that some opinions are better than others. I know this sounds wrong or undemocratic or w/e, but its true. Opinions that are 1. logical and 2. backed up with fact are better than those that contradict themselves or are based on lies.
So what people are saying here is that your argument contradicts itself. On one hand, you are saying that people should be open minded, and on the other you are being closed minded and dismissing homosexuality.
i'm just getting some shit off my chest - avy - Jun 13, 2008
Retribution Wrote:i don't expect any of you to understand, this is way above you, i get it
you guys are all now exhibiting what i was talking about in II,1 this is hate, i except that you have different opinions but you obviously don't accept that i have different opinion
Retribution Wrote:II. Stupidity
1. Hate, not everyone believes that same things you do, you wrong might be there right, so instead starting a fucking war, try to understand there position, try to make them understand yours, and you might even learn something, and through we grow(corny but true, don't take this line lightly)
The bolded statement above is exactly what I am trying to do. No where in my post am I trying to hate. The only thing that can be construed as anywhere near "hate" would be me telling you to step off your soapbox.
I understand exactly what your trying to say, its not above anyone's understanding. I respect your opinion but am also entitled to my own.
Retribution Wrote:i have not actually contradicted anything, in this, your reading between the lines and seeing a message i was not trying to portray, the message you want me to portray
You have, I'll make it nice and easy for you.
Retribution Wrote:if you have a problem with them talk to DF, PM DF, but stop posting in the forums trying to start a mob, the admins are not our problem, and it makes you look like a coward
Retribution Wrote:1. Hate, not everyone believes that same things you do, you wrong might be there right, so instead starting a fucking war, try to understand there position, try to make them understand yours, and you might even learn something, and through we grow
If thats not a contradiction then I dont know what is... \0= I'll repeat myself for my own sake: I disagree, the whole purpose behind the forums is communication. Some people feel that they were wrongfully banned and deserve an explanation. Take the matter with duplex, if he had not come onto the forums and started a fairly well thoughtout and somewhat CALM discussion the server would have lost a regular, if not more than one.
I would be more than happy to retract any statement that is based on a falsification or a bad portrayal of your expressed opinions. But I'll probably have two more to take its place.[/b]
i'm just getting some shit off my chest - Retribution - Jun 13, 2008
first opinions are opinions, and that some are better then others is an opinion at best
second i want criticism, but to what i wrote, most of you criticism is unrelated to what i was trying to portray, and instead you took a much to simple meaning out of this, thats why i said this is above you, i wanted someone to criticize my logic, not there own, you digging to deep, giving my word different meaning
and avy, all you guys are saying is "no your wrong" is that not hate in it self, i only want you to understand and allow me to understand you, and your logic, so that i may better convey my ideas to you, but your comments are so stifling i can hardly find any real logic in them at all
i'm not starting a mob, i'm trying to get to know you
heres an easy example for "you people"
i say, "patriots are the best football team because they scored 24-0 against the packers last week"
you say, "your wrong"
what i want you to say, "the packers are the best team because they won the first 2 super-bowls"
i'm just getting some shit off my chest - Drunken F00l - Jun 13, 2008
There are three types of "there":
their
there
they're
There are two types of "your":
your
you're
Use them correctly, please.