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unthink
Jun 14, 2006, 10:24 PM
Looks like the update destroyed sourceop. Hopefully valve updates their sdk soon to reflect the changes.
Im guessing it may be a while before we get sourceop back :( ?

OmegaZero_Alpha
Jun 15, 2006, 12:38 AM
This could be a problem, DF needs to hear about it ASAP... if it is a legit complaint. i would recomment reinstalling the plugin, setting all of your setting s to default and restarting your computer. you might even try a system rollback if your the only one with your server. I would be of more help, but im not that experienced with the source op system itself. (i know about Entmod Adminop and the half-life engine + Source)

Retribution
Jun 15, 2006, 12:47 AM
same problem here
i reinstalled the program but nothing works

OmegaZero_Alpha
Jun 15, 2006, 12:59 AM
This is horrible then. this is the type of thing that kills small communities like this. does anybody have any specifics on the problem?

is it a complete script failure or does the GUI just not work?
Do you get an error in the console, if so, what is it?
Did steam say anythign about this in any of the updates?

ill look through the update news to see if there are any more specifics.

UPDATE: ill be making a thread on the Steam forums asking about this exact issue sometime today

OmegaZero_Alpha
Jun 15, 2006, 01:38 AM
Okay, i looked through the forums at steam to find the problem. apperantly this was just a bad update. they should fix it with their next one because the following problems are occuring:

The names are huge now...
Messed up rcons (which is the problem with source OP)...
You can pick up health packs but it wont give them to you...
It seemed to lag out like crazy...
The lamp cords are touching the floor...
everything seemed delayed...

From what im hearing you are lucky if you can connect to a server at all.

here is a post from another server-side modder:

Key Phrase being, DEDICATED SERVER! As a memebr of WhutDu♥♥♥'s community, and co-captian of the clan that plays in his server, it will be a huge blow on all of us. All of us includes everybody who plays on servers that use any kind of admin mod, or serverside mod in general. I'm sure mani will get to it, but he may just say F*** it. I am honestly shocked that with an update given to us to make gameplay better, it ends up being a huge thorn in the side for the lot of us.

Don Sharp

Another good one: this problem is occurring right before a $100k tournement.
__________________________________________________

This is obviously a fault of valve and steam, it would not be good if DF started to fix the problem and they re-patched right after he fixed it.[/u]

unthink
Jun 15, 2006, 02:54 AM
nah system rollbacks wont work, the server and the client need to be running the same versions of the game, or the client will get that class table error.

I dont think that the update's update will solve any of our problems; the memory addresses sourceop uses for functions have changed from the update...unless I am completely wrong and sourceop is entirely rcon-based.
And even if it is, the fixed rcon update still wont help the fact that when we start up our servers they will be running normal Deathmatch.

I've even tried loading the plugin manually, which didn't work.

This is by far the best plugin I have seen. I just hope DF doesnt say f*** it and stop the development.

MagneticLlama
Jun 15, 2006, 11:14 AM
DF can't do anything about it at this time. Valve hasn't updated the SDK to reflect the changes they made to HL2DM.

You've just gotta wait it out. We've been through this before (yp)

OmegaZero_Alpha
Jun 15, 2006, 04:53 PM
all of the problems that they created with the new update severely outweigh the problems that they fixed. i think that they should undo all of the changes they did instead of comforming all of the problems so that they are problems in SDK, too.

Naquadria
Jun 15, 2006, 05:48 PM
Yeah I think most if not all 3rd party plugins got hosed. So SourceOP might be down for a bit.

larz
Jun 16, 2006, 05:40 AM
wow i guess god picked a good day 4 my pc 2 crash lol :D

OmegaZero_Alpha
Jun 16, 2006, 06:48 AM
valve is going right down the shit-hole lately. first they force steam upon us, then they start charging for 3rd party mods, and now they are eliminating 3rd party mods (alot of people think that this is an intentional thing, trying to get server-side-modders to work on officiall steam plugins)

pandragon_exile
Jun 16, 2006, 08:13 PM
actually all 3rd party mods work except sourceop. Latest version of mani still doesn't work but the previous verions work. sourcemm has an updated version as well which works with the last steam update. Now it's DF's turn to fix!

MagneticLlama
Jun 16, 2006, 11:52 PM
actually all 3rd party mods work except sourceop. Latest version of mani still doesn't work but the previous verions work. sourcemm has an updated version as well which works with the last steam update. Now it's DF's turn to fix!

You mean all Public mods. (excluding Op)

OmegaZero_Alpha
Jun 17, 2006, 01:35 AM
im pretty sure that those are just the Rcon-based mods, which are still suffering with alot of commands.

Naquadria
Jun 17, 2006, 02:04 PM
actually all 3rd party mods work except sourceop. Latest version of mani still doesn't work but the previous verions work. sourcemm has an updated version as well which works with the last steam update. Now it's DF's turn to fix!


Um actually its still up to valve to fix it.... The older versions of mani may work but I doubt they work 100%. Most maps are still bugged, and the main 3rd party plugins are still down. So yeah......

Anyways, DF is still trying to fix what he can to get SourceOP back up and running.

Drunken F00l
Jun 17, 2006, 04:25 PM
I've already fixed what I can with SourceOP. It starts and some stuff works, but there are still issues with calling functions on CBaseEntity pointers which affects most things in the mod. As of right now, I think the only way I can fix it is to either revert back to version 14 of server.dll or get updated header files.

OmegaZero_Alpha
Jun 18, 2006, 02:13 AM
everybody at the steam forums seems convinced that they are going to undo the changes done by the latest patch, so i wouldnt put too much effort into it (dont ignore it, in the case that they dont).

Retribution
Jun 18, 2006, 10:44 PM
i sure hope so
hl2 is no fun with out sourceOP

TitanPower
Jun 23, 2006, 12:02 PM
i sure hope so
hl2 is no fun with out sourceOP

Yep, thats exactley how i feel. No SOP, no HL2 for me.

larz
Jun 23, 2006, 02:08 PM
arggg im so bored how much longer VAlVE??????????@#$%^im not a game designer i dont know how long these things take. mayb i shud hav mor patience.does anyone hav any proof that they r even working 2 fix the problem?

fxsx24
Jun 23, 2006, 05:16 PM
im gettin boerd outta my mind not being to play hl2 (SOP the only server i play)

OmegaZero_Alpha
Jun 25, 2006, 11:43 PM
join the irc room,or go mow lawns to earn donation money for us

larz
Jun 26, 2006, 12:16 AM
i did join IRC but it dont work

OmegaZero_Alpha
Jun 26, 2006, 12:21 AM
THeres a visene... thread... something for that

Retribution
Jun 26, 2006, 01:37 AM
steam is probobly taking so long because there trying debug the original
which if you have ever tryed to debug a program this extensive you know i can take months or even years :cry:

larz
Jun 26, 2006, 01:39 AM
omfg i wann shoot myself

fxsx24
Jun 26, 2006, 04:45 PM
dont do that

larz
Jun 26, 2006, 06:25 PM
i dont a magnum :cry:

Naquadria
Jun 26, 2006, 09:34 PM
ya no shooting

Retribution
Jun 27, 2006, 12:37 AM
yeah just hit yourself in the jewels with a baseball bat instead

OmegaZero_Alpha
Jun 27, 2006, 05:59 AM
if your gonna throw your life away you might as well take Steam hostage until they fix the update...

Retribution
Jun 27, 2006, 02:20 PM
dude have you ever been held gun point
its not easy to work when you think your gona get shot

larz
Jun 28, 2006, 07:58 PM
um y wud i hit myslef in the testes with a bat???wat good wud that do me???how the f**k wud that make me feel any better about the death of the sop?(ahah i get it u just want a laugh)anyhoo ill just take some coughsyrup and read the Dark elf trilogy agian and ill b fine

Retribution
Jun 28, 2006, 10:04 PM
well if you hit your self in the balls with a bat would you even be thinking about sourceOP,
or would your be on the floor curled up in pain yelling obsenities

larz
Jun 29, 2006, 01:53 AM
hey u hav a point ill keep that inmind.i just thought of another thing i cud do.i cud make up an alias on exuniteds forums and fuck alittle bit with exxaxion and b4 he finally banns me :lol: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: , ill do sumthing real f**ked and let him know it was me the whole time