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Skyrider
Mar 20, 2014, 05:24 PM
Hey everyone.

We have included a new feature that everyone should be familiar with, and you may have already noticed that in every post you'll see a shield icon. Before I'll mention what they are used for, let me give you guys a heads-up first.

They are not used to replace your current positive (or neutral) reputation that you already have on your reputation thread. The system is going to be used for down-voting people instead. This means you can down-vote scammers yourself, AND ONLY scammers.

Just to be clear before reading further. Before you down-vote someone, it's important to know that you should have a scammer report ready on SteamREP.com.

http://forums.steamrep.com/forums/report/

From there, at the top read through the "How to report trading fraud" information block.

How to report trading fraud:
1. Review the SteamRep investigation policy. (http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/read-before-posting-steamrep-investigative-policy.230)
2. Gather your evidence of the scam, including screenshots of chats or inventory history. Evidence is required!
3. Submit your scam report via SteamREP forums. (http://forums.steamrep.com/forms/scam-report.2/respond)

Once you've reported the user on SteamREP with valid evidence, you are welcome to use the downgrade system explained below:


There are currently a total of 5 type of shields:
http://forums.sourceop.com/images/reputation/reputation_gray.png http://forums.sourceop.com/images/reputation/reputation_blue.png http://forums.sourceop.com/images/reputation/reputation_yellow.png http://forums.sourceop.com/images/reputation/reputation_red.png http://forums.sourceop.com/images/reputation/reputation_green.png

http://forums.sourceop.com/images/reputation/reputation_gray.png This shield is a neutral shield and everyone here on the forums starts with this one. (yes, even the currently banned & SteamREP marked users I'm still working on that). This shield means your trade reputation is clean and that no one has down-votes you what so ever. If you have this shield, you are good to go. Just don't get down-voted for scamming!

http://forums.sourceop.com/images/reputation/reputation_blue.png This means you've been down-voted once. At this point it doesn't necessarily mean you have scammed someone, but it does raise a question for the other users to either trust you, or not. It gives people the idea to do a small back-ground check before trading you. If at all seems to be a misunderstanding, your reputation will be reset to neutral.

http://forums.sourceop.com/images/reputation/reputation_yellow.png The caution shield is something you will gain when multiple people has down-voted you. It'll be more trouble some and the SourceOP staff will look into it. If at all seems to be a misunderstanding, your reputation will be reset to neutral.

http://forums.sourceop.com/images/reputation/reputation_red.png Having a red semi-banned OR SteamREP marked shield means you've been down-rated by people far too often and your forum account has been limited for it. The difference between "Semi-Banned" and "SteamREP marked" is that SteamREP marked users will get a red SteamREP marked usertitle, while the semi-banned users do not:

http://forums.sourceop.com/images/reputation/steamrep-banned-member.png

Until things has been checked out, you will stay limited.

http://forums.sourceop.com/images/reputation/reputation_green.png All trade/rep related moderators and administrators will have this green shield. NONE of the regulars will ever get this shield. If they down vote people, they will instantly ban the forum profile. They have no mercy towards scammers.

So how do I down-vote someone?
So you may ask.. how to I downvote someone? On every reputation thread and on the first post, you'll see a "report scam" button.

http://forums.sourceop.com/images/scammer-reputation.png

Use this to down-vote a user. But you may only use this system when:

1). The person is already a SR marked member on SteamREP
2). The person you are down-voted has scammed or attempted to scam you.
3), You've made a scam report on the SteamREP forums on the particular user.
---> Phishing / Sharking is not valid under the scamming reasons!

If you abuse this system in anyway, you'll be removed from the SourceOP forums and your reputation thread will be closed down.

Further more,

We've also made a small adjustment to the reputation rules of which mostly aims to people that are leaving reputation to others. The main goal of SourceOP reputations always was to reduce the risk involved in the cash trading by leaving valid and honest reputations to others, hence this small change we've added for all future reputations.

Be descriptive with your rep comments. They should include:

a) the type of items
b) the number of items
c) the amount of cash
d) the method of the cash transfer
e) the information who went first

Example:

I bought 20 keys for 34$ via PayPal. I was given the items first OR I paid first then got the items.

OR

I sold Unusual Terror-Watt Cold Killer for 204$ via PayPal. I was given the money first OR I gave the unusual first then got the money.

For those who wish to leave reputation to others, please remember that reputation here on SourceOP should be limited to transactions that took place on SOP and not from other sites. Regardless of how silly this rule may sound, it was made in order to validate the reputation faster.

And finally, All trade related threads have been to the archive section as we wanted to make a fresh start. So all you have to do is to re-create your trade threads with whatever you want to buy, sell, trade, etc. If by any chance your trade thread was also your reputation thread, then you are welcome to e-mail me back as I'll change that into a valid reputation thread within the reputation section.

dak1ne
Mar 21, 2014, 08:21 AM
Good to see this back and with this new awesome system :D

MISTERAMD
Mar 21, 2014, 08:52 AM
Glad to see this website back up and running.
It's been a while since it was online.
So I'm glad, together with other members (I'm sure), that's is back in business.
:)

snIpey
Mar 21, 2014, 09:37 AM
"c) the amount of cash"
I don't see why anyone should know how much money the transfer/sale was , maybe the buyer negotiated a better price ? I don't see why any seller would want that on his rep thread

BlackAdder
Mar 21, 2014, 09:47 AM
Those rules were not established in order to keep track of prices but in order to keep track of the exact trade agreements made between the seller and the buyer.

do3333
Mar 21, 2014, 10:07 AM
Great to see sourceop back.

Vandaem
Mar 21, 2014, 12:47 PM
thank god, great to see

Gatherix
Mar 21, 2014, 01:05 PM
Regarding the reporting and/or down-voting of members:

To clarify, a currently processing scammer report must be on SteamRep.com, and not any 'partner' communities? Posting scammer reports on multiple forums isn't proper procedure; if it's required that the scammer report is posted on SteamRep.com, I don't want to advise users to post reports on said communities if they intend to report/down-vote the user here. I'm guessing, if that's correct, that it's to expedite the process of checking for existing and/or processing scammer reports?

Kanade
Mar 21, 2014, 01:10 PM
inb4 people abusing downgrade system

Skyrider
Mar 21, 2014, 01:17 PM
Regarding the reporting and/or down-voting of members:

To clarify, a currently processing scammer report must be on SteamRep.com, and not any 'partner' communities? Posting scammer reports on multiple forums isn't proper procedure; if it's required that the scammer report is posted on SteamRep.com, I don't want to advise users to post reports on said communities if they intend to report/down-vote the user here. I'm guessing, if that's correct, that it's to expedite the process of checking for existing and/or processing scammer reports?
Indeed, other communities scam reports don't count at this point.


inb4 people abusing downgrade system
I've added some anti-abuse systems in order to prevent a lot of it. E.G new users down-votes won't have any effect, and you have to be steam linked.

Irish
Mar 21, 2014, 01:24 PM
This is all great and all but when will the trade area open back up. I need 35 keys like yesterday and tired of dealing with the scamming on shitpost.

Skyrider
Mar 21, 2014, 01:25 PM
This is all great and all but when will the trade area open back up. I need 35 keys like yesterday and tired of dealing with the scamming on shitpost.
Ehm, it's already open? As far as I know there are no permission issues. read the bottom of the first post in this thread


And finally, All trade related threads have been to the archive section as we wanted to make a fresh start. So all you have to do is to re-create your trade threads with whatever you want to buy, sell, trade, etc. If by any chance your trade thread was also your reputation thread, then you are welcome to e-mail me back as I'll change that into a valid reputation thread within the reputation section.

If anyone is having issues posting there, would be nice to know about it.

Irish
Mar 21, 2014, 01:47 PM
The following errors occurred with your submission

Before you are able to create a thread, a prefix is required for you to set on your thread. It tells if you are either buying or selling your items



There is no drop down for a prefix any longer.

Gatherix
Mar 21, 2014, 01:48 PM
Indeed, other communities scam reports don't count at this point.

Alright, thanks for the clarification. Glad to see trading supported once again, we all appreciate your efforts.

Skyrider
Mar 21, 2014, 02:05 PM
The following errors occurred with your submission

Before you are able to create a thread, a prefix is required for you to set on your thread. It tells if you are either buying or selling your items

There is no drop down for a prefix any longer.
Good to know, I'll fix that, thanks.

Pizza the Pizza
Mar 21, 2014, 02:10 PM
Thank you SOP!

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Joining in on that no prefix on trade setback.

Skyrider
Mar 21, 2014, 02:28 PM
Thank you SOP!

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Joining in on that no prefix on trade setback.
Prefix issue has been solved. Sorry about that, seems I overlooked the prefix permissions.

shiwarrior
Mar 21, 2014, 04:04 PM
Thanks for all your hard work SourceOp !!
Good to see it all back online and again, and may I add, great new addition !

keep up the good work

TheFryingDutchpan
Mar 21, 2014, 07:12 PM
Wow back already? That was actually pretty quick all things considered. I really like the idea of this new system. Hopefully it works perfectly.

boomerandzapper
Mar 21, 2014, 07:42 PM
This new info we have to post on rep threads gives scammers more information. I was recently scammed be an impersonator that used this info to trick me into sending first. For example he told me that last time I sent first-which I did-and the amount we traded. I'm not saying I wasn't at fault, but scammers can target people who send first as they are most likely less experienced than the user who sent second.

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This new info we have to post on rep threads gives scammers more information. I was recently scammed be an impersonator that used this info to trick me into sending first. For example he told me that last time I sent first-which I did-and the amount we traded. I'm not saying I wasn't at fault, but scammers can target people who send first as they are most likely less experienced than the user who sent second.

Why can't I edit this post?

Bubba789
Mar 21, 2014, 08:37 PM
there was a smile on my face when I saw the email from you skyrider. thanks for putting it back up!

BlackAdder
Mar 22, 2014, 04:31 AM
This new info we have to post on rep threads gives scammers more information. I was recently scammed be an impersonator that used this info to trick me into sending first. For example he told me that last time I sent first-which I did-and the amount we traded. I'm not saying I wasn't at fault, but scammers can target people who send first as they are most likely less experienced than the user who sent second.

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Why can't I edit this post?

First of all, it is your responsibility to verify identity of the person you are talking to. Secondly, people who impersonate reputable traders usually try to scam inexperienced ones and it has nothing to do with the information that you provide in the reputation comments.

Irish
Mar 22, 2014, 10:14 AM
Prefix issue has been solved. Sorry about that, seems I overlooked the prefix permissions.

I wanted to make my WTB thread inactive. I don't see that option any longer. Can we bring that back so I can turn the thread on/off when needed?

Skyrider
Mar 22, 2014, 10:24 AM
I wanted to make my WTB thread inactive. I don't see that option any longer. Can we bring that back so I can turn the thread on/off when needed?
define inactive. eg, close it on your own?

Irish
Mar 22, 2014, 01:56 PM
Yes. Then open it up gain when the need arises. Same shit we had before.

Hugo9191
Mar 22, 2014, 03:41 PM
Nice to see some improvement SOP :)

si2136
Mar 23, 2014, 03:20 AM
Thanks for this update! Many Thanks.

T.K.
Mar 23, 2014, 09:25 AM
will you guys be bringing SOP trusted seller or something similar later on

BlackAdder
Mar 23, 2014, 09:49 AM
We have recently fired our fortuneteller. Sorry :(

Nhoise
Mar 23, 2014, 10:30 AM
Nice work lads.
But i just tried to make the OP of my rep thread up to date again and got this message;
"You do not have permission to perform this action. Please refresh the page and login before trying again."

BlackAdder
Mar 23, 2014, 10:47 AM
You cannot edit your reputation thread. Everything works fine.

trajektorijus
Mar 23, 2014, 11:07 AM
Awesome work guys!!!

Nhoise
Mar 23, 2014, 11:07 AM
But i used to be able to edit it just fine before the rep section went down.

Monstro Da Ganza
Mar 26, 2014, 05:08 PM
Nice improvements SOP!

JuanZ
Mar 27, 2014, 09:16 AM
My rep thread is inactive :(

Skyrider
Apr 10, 2014, 05:21 PM
Shield icons has been upgraded, see first post.

boomerandzapper
Apr 14, 2014, 03:36 AM
I see it says "Steam Level:" but it seems to be blank for everyone. Is this feature still to come?

BlackAdder
Apr 14, 2014, 03:47 AM
It has not been fully implemented yet.