[TheDopp]

Youre just reiterating what everyone else has already mentioned? I never disagreed. As I said, we can start off with adding and removing maps.

This thread is full of ideas, everyone with their own personal idea of how to fix the server. Adding and removing maps seems like the most agreed upon problem, and since a change like that will be the most apparent, I think we should start off with that, and then immediately move on to everything else (Donator system, funky plugins, rock the vote, etc.). Its also somewhat easier.

Getting everything done at once will take longer as well. I can try and get the maps added by the end of this week even perhaps.

Not to speak for Fusion but I believe the point he's making is we've had these threads before (three examples in Game's post) and each of the threads was the same message - we need a lot of changes. And then only one change would come out of a thread, everyone would cheer and the matter was dropped. At least until someone went 'Wait, there was more than just the one thing that got done that needed to be done...' and at which point they decide to make a new thread.

Saying 'oh, the rotation is the best place to start' is wrong. We've done that. That was the outcome of one of those three threads. The fact that a rotation update might be able to happen by the end of the week on one of the servers isn't a solution to the issue this thread is discussing. The maps are not the sole issue. Having new admins on 2fort, PH and Valve1 is not the issue. Not being able to RTV is not the issue. Having empty servers that could be full if their gamemode/theme was changed is not the issue. Fixing one of those things does not fix the community. Having the ability to fix all the things (major to minor), as they come up, in a timely and dynamic fashion is the issue.

It's good input to know the rotation change proposals, new maps, etc for Valve1 and PH (though PH has an active proposal out there for the rotation update already). There's a thread Womb started to track that. This thread isn't about deciding 'Oh, well the rotation on Valve1 is the best place to start' and then focusing on what maps are needed. We have regulars across the three active servers posting in this thread. This is a SourceOP community discussion, not a valve1 discussion.

Again, don't want to speak for Fusion or anyone else though.