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Public Service Announcement regarding Degroot Keep
#11

breaks the map balance

The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State.
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#12

glouch Wrote:can't tell if fusion or wombraider is worse admin

lol because banning for exploits makes me a bad admin right

The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State.
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#13

WombRaider Wrote:breaks the map balance
In all the times I've seen demos jump the rocks I've never seen it sway the outcome of the map. The only way it upsets the balance is if you're a really good demo that can jump over the wall, with the caber in hand, all the way to the final point once A and B are capped, and destroy everyone on the point with the caber.
Or you could huntspam and be more of an effect on balance.
Demo jumping displacements in other maps can change balance more than in Degroot (as I've mentioned previously).
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#14

what is the gate for, if not to keep out people that haven't capped A and B?

The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State.
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#15

WombRaider Wrote:what is the gate for, if not to keep out people that haven't capped A and B?
To protect the king and queen.
A better question is what balance-breaking thing demo's can do on the battlements, in the walls and in the courtyard (when RED gets out to each of those first on round start)?
Worst possible case 14 demo's fly over the wall and somehow manage to camp both spawn exits after somehow killing everyone (who were "Prancin' aboot with [their] heads full of eyeballs!") while two folks (scouts for the sake of argument to speed things up) cap the two points that no one from RED bothered to jump down to before BLU's gates opened, and those same demo's keep spawn camping and not dying while the two scoots capture C. Of course this scenario isn't reliant on the demo's flying over the walls as they can split evenly and take A&B, then rush into the castle and camp it the same way, since there's no advantage to jumping the walls and encountering all of RED versus taking A&B and only encountering those that jump down off the walls, then killing the rest when the gate opens.

tl;dr - The demo is a fucking Highlander with magical powers, one of which includes running and flying over rocks like a boss, and it doesn't break the map.

Edit: Also, one more.
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#16

glouch Wrote:can't tell if fusion or wombraider is worse admin

im so jelly fusion got admin /fixed.
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#17

WombRaider Wrote:
glouch Wrote:can't tell if fusion or wombraider is worse admin

lol because banning for exploits makes me a bad admin right
more like banning cause you got butthurt when somebody used this against you

for what it's worth, at least you wouldn't whore yourself out for hats unlike this other guy I know
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#18

Oh, honestly speaking I think Womb is a fair admin, haven't seen him abuse his power yet.

Fusion hasn't been admin long enough for me to judge, but he's a nice guy so I think he'd make an alright admin.
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#19

ibby Wrote:Oh, honestly speaking I think Womb is a fair admin, haven't seen him abuse his power yet.

Fusion hasn't been admin long enough for me to judge, but he's a nice guy so I think he'd make an alright admin.
Womb's a good admin actually. Aside from his anti-demoknight-on-degroot fetish. And some of his binds are too long.
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#20

bro it's just that trashcan one

i added a variation of your suggestion:

call 911 cuz u just got raped


and also


u mad u sad u a dad


in addition to:


alias "+ice" "say Allow me to break the ice. My name is Freeze. Learn it well. For it's the chilling sound of your doom.; bind b +ice2"
alias "+ice2" "say I'm afraid my condition has left me cold to your pleas of mercy.; bind b +ice3"
alias "+ice3" "say Tonight, hell freezes over!; bind b +ice4"
alias "+ice4" "say Ice to see you!; bind b +ice5"
alias "+ice5" "say I'm here to make your life a living hell. Prepare for a bitter harvest. Winter has come at last.; bind b +ice6"
alias "+ice6" "say Adam and Evil! ; bind b +ice7"
alias "+ice7" "say What killed the dinosaurs? The Ice Age!; bind b +ice8"
alias "+ice8" "say In this universe, there's only one absolute... everything freezes!; bind b +ice9"
alias "+ice9" "say Cool party!; bind b +ice10"
alias "+ice10" "say Their bones will turn to ice! Their blood will freeze in my hands!; bind b +ice11"
alias "+ice11" "say If revenge is a dish best served cold, then put on your Sunday finest. It's time to feast!; bind b +ice12"
alias "+ice12" "say Can you feel it coming? The icy cold of space! Ahh! At 30,000 feet, your heart will *freeze* and be no more!; bind b +ice13"
alias "+ice13" "say Let's kick some ice!; bind b +ice14"
alias "+ice14" "say You're not sending ME to the COOLER!; bind b +ice15"
alias "+ice15" "say The Ice Man cometh!; bind b +ice16"
alias "+ice16" "say Tonight's forecast... a freeze is coming!; bind b +ice17"
alias "+ice17" "say Stay cool; bind b +ice"

The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State.
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