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Prop 8 in Cali
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insomniaprincess Wrote:I do not find it easier nor more accurate to do this. You and the collective majority of the forums may do so but I choose to refrain from generalizations, sterotypes and blanket statements.

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Everything I talked about is conditional based upon the singular persons involved and the circumstances.

while i respect the fact you think you don't, i truly believe that stereotypes are part of the human condition, a coping mechanism, that you can shed no more then i can.


insomniaprincess Wrote:I'd also like to point out that I wasn't defending Versed nor was I arguing with you, Zeit. To this point, I have not revealed my personal feelings on homosexuality, religion or whether or not Spiderman is cooler than Superman.

I just said that I think you should have shared your feelings and views on religion without pointing fingers at someone who never gave you reason to do so.

thats very true. and you have every right to tell or not to tell. btw, spiderman.


insomniaprincess Wrote:
Zeitgeist Wrote:it wouldn't excuse the fact that organized religion has declared war on homosexuals,

a.)Where is your proof of this fact?
b.)"organized religion" does not encompass all Christians or even all who believe in God- this is another blanket statement

a. because of the nature of christianity (it being mostly ambiguous and without specific modern day leadership - with the exception of two specific examples, the catholics and lds, who have declared their obvious distaste for us - so far as to say we are not eligible for basic human rights) and because the modern day nature of war is often cloak and dagger, guerrilla warfare, legislative warfare, rights warfare, ect... i really can't point you to a piece of text saying "we declare war!" but there is certainly enough unpleasantness that i don't think im being an out-there-wacko to say that the larger organized religions of the world have declared war on homosexuals.

b. i mean the unorganized and non-catholic/other large denomination christians and other monotheists who are passive towards some of the more aggressive churchs' stance are enabling them to continue being aggressive and dominant. it's the whole "if you didnt stop your friend from murdering a hobo in front of you, you're just as guilty," kind of thing. not that homos are hobos.

insomniaprincess Wrote:I have friends and family members who call themselves "Christian" and "homosexual". Would you say that they are at war with homosexuals or that they are helping to "push the agenda"?

gay christians are very much like black confederates. they certainly existed, and they were certainly not popular among their own. it is a direct conflict of interest, and these people are compromising a part of themselves.

i think they undermine everything gay rights has been pushing for globally over the last few decades. and i mean that to you too bookie! (my partner)

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Prop 8 in Cali - by IamTHEBOOKIE - Nov 10, 2008, 04:59 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 10, 2008, 05:49 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Drunken F00l - Nov 10, 2008, 05:50 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 10, 2008, 05:54 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Zeitgeist - Nov 10, 2008, 05:55 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 10, 2008, 05:57 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Zeitgeist - Nov 10, 2008, 06:13 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 10, 2008, 06:17 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by PhoShizzle - Nov 10, 2008, 06:18 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 10, 2008, 06:30 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Zeitgeist - Nov 10, 2008, 06:37 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 10, 2008, 06:38 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by IamTHEBOOKIE - Nov 10, 2008, 06:42 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 10, 2008, 06:44 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Zeitgeist - Nov 10, 2008, 06:45 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by PhoShizzle - Nov 10, 2008, 06:45 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 10, 2008, 06:51 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by IamTHEBOOKIE - Nov 10, 2008, 06:57 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 10, 2008, 07:00 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by N0body - Nov 10, 2008, 07:00 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Fides - Nov 10, 2008, 07:27 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 10, 2008, 07:30 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Zeitgeist - Nov 10, 2008, 08:35 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Zeitgeist - Nov 10, 2008, 08:35 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by N0body - Nov 10, 2008, 08:38 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Zeitgeist - Nov 10, 2008, 08:49 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 10, 2008, 08:55 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Zeitgeist - Nov 10, 2008, 10:22 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Fides - Nov 10, 2008, 10:24 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Hell-met - Nov 10, 2008, 11:36 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Zeitgeist - Nov 10, 2008, 11:54 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Fides - Nov 11, 2008, 12:51 AM
Prop 8 in Cali - by fubar28 - Nov 11, 2008, 01:45 AM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Drunken F00l - Nov 11, 2008, 02:29 AM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Gehe_fin - Nov 11, 2008, 08:40 AM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Zeitgeist - Nov 11, 2008, 09:44 AM
Prop 8 in Cali - by avy - Nov 11, 2008, 01:21 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Gehe_fin - Nov 11, 2008, 02:23 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by IamTHEBOOKIE - Nov 11, 2008, 05:04 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Kou - Nov 11, 2008, 05:32 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Rostov - Nov 11, 2008, 06:44 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by IamTHEBOOKIE - Nov 11, 2008, 08:35 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 11, 2008, 08:51 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by dynamo152 - Nov 11, 2008, 09:33 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Hell-met - Nov 11, 2008, 09:48 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Drunken F00l - Nov 11, 2008, 09:51 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 11, 2008, 10:07 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by N0body - Nov 11, 2008, 11:06 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Rostov - Nov 12, 2008, 04:16 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Hell-met - Nov 12, 2008, 07:01 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Asai - Nov 22, 2008, 01:06 AM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 22, 2008, 01:24 AM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Asai - Nov 22, 2008, 05:22 AM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Versed - Nov 22, 2008, 01:00 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Hell-met - Nov 22, 2008, 01:24 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Zeitgeist - Nov 22, 2008, 03:28 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Rostov - Nov 22, 2008, 03:36 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by N0body - Nov 22, 2008, 03:42 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by insomniaprincess - Nov 22, 2008, 05:06 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by N0body - Nov 22, 2008, 08:05 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Versed - Nov 22, 2008, 08:37 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by insomniaprincess - Nov 22, 2008, 08:46 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 22, 2008, 09:29 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Rostov - Nov 22, 2008, 11:29 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 23, 2008, 04:56 AM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Kou - Nov 23, 2008, 09:34 AM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 23, 2008, 09:42 AM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Kou - Nov 23, 2008, 11:01 AM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Zeitgeist - Nov 23, 2008, 12:40 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 23, 2008, 01:42 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Versed - Nov 23, 2008, 05:33 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by insomniaprincess - Nov 23, 2008, 06:24 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Zeitgeist - Nov 23, 2008, 07:29 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by insomniaprincess - Nov 23, 2008, 08:05 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by insomniaprincess - Nov 23, 2008, 08:25 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by insomniaprincess - Nov 23, 2008, 08:31 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Zeitgeist - Nov 23, 2008, 08:48 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Zeitgeist - Nov 23, 2008, 08:53 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by insomniaprincess - Nov 23, 2008, 09:15 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by avy - Nov 23, 2008, 09:35 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by insomniaprincess - Nov 23, 2008, 09:52 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by insomniaprincess - Nov 23, 2008, 09:57 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Biggs - Nov 23, 2008, 10:57 PM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 24, 2008, 12:35 AM
Prop 8 in Cali - by N0body - Nov 24, 2008, 01:54 AM
Prop 8 in Cali - by Drunken F00l - Nov 24, 2008, 01:55 AM
Prop 8 in Cali - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Nov 24, 2008, 11:31 AM

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