[Drunken F00l]

Hey so what kind of discount can you get me for Apple products (I've never bought any, but hey, maybe some day). I can get 17% off and I don't even work for them.

[Zeitgeist]

Hey so what kind of discount can you get me for Apple products (I've never bought any, but hey, maybe some day). I can get 17% off and I don't even work for them.

25%

[Redneck]

computers: build a PC for 1/10th of a price, with identical specs and better gaming performance

I used to believe that too, but we had a discussion on another forum recently and found that isn't really the case; the price difference when you compare 1:1 hardware prices and the cost of an OS is negligible.

iPods: creative Zen/zunes can easily replace every feature and better

But who innovated first? Apple. Have you tried a new Touch? Those things are amazing.

iPhone: oh god, a hard-to-use phone (touch-screens are horrible, I can use my 4-year-old go-phone with god speed without even looking at it) AND an iPod, AND half of a shitty laptop without wifi? who could resist?

But it has 802.11 built in; I set it up for my clients to use at the office, and they use it similarly to a Blackberry in the corporate world, getting email and such.

I'm no huge fan of Apple. The only thing I've ever bought from them was an iPod. I'm also no big nationalist neocon guy, but I don't think our country is in a position to be bashing any American company that innovates as well as Apple does in these times.

[OmegaZero_Alpha]

I used to believe that too, but we had a discussion on another forum recently and found that isn't really the case; the price difference when you compare 1:1 hardware prices and the cost of an OS is negligible.

HAHAHAH. NO. I am going to have to prove this one wrong immediately.

$2,700$ imac includes:
3ghz core2duo (of undisclosed architecture)
4GB 800MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 2x2GB
1TB Serial ATA Drive
8x SUPERDRIVE (holy christ they like to make things up)
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS(GS?) NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS
1.3 megapixel web-camera
apple speakers
24 inch monitor
mouse
keyboard

Now lets build our own!

3ghz core2duo: 80$ plus a 40$ heatsink will give you a 4 ghz

4gb of 800mhz ram is also old. 4gb of 1066 is 100$

1tb hard drive? NO, we buy 2 640's: 150$

Some random video card that I can barely find on google? we'll be generous and call it a top of the line 8800: 200$

a better webcam than theirs is 30$

a better monitor than theirs is 300$

turns out a SUPERDRIVE is an 8x dvd burner. 10$

Vista ultimate for System builders is 130$, but it is going to be outdated in a year, so get yourself the 240-day trial of server 08 for FREE!

Super cool case is 100$

Awesome motherboard is 200$

mouse is 40$

keyboard is 50$

1300$ in total for a way better computer that you can upgrade incrementally as you need to, which (done intelligently) will save you a shit load in the long run.

"I don't know, it sells itself" -Vince Offer

But who innovated first? Apple. Have you tried a new Touch? Those things are amazing.

Compaq made the first "iPod" device, which was a digital media player with a 4.5 gb hard drive. Apple didn't have their iPod out until 2001.

They do streamline innovations, but they do not create them.

Yes, I have tried an iPod touch, my 2gb Phillips took a shit so I borrowed that and let him use my PS3. It's not bad, but It is a 400$ 32gb MP3 player. You can get a Zune and DS with 4 times the storage for less than that and do everything it does better.

But it has 802.11 built in; I set it up for my clients to use at the office, and they use it similarly to a Blackberry in the corporate world, getting email and such.

you have me there, I haven't looked any iPhone but the first gen.

[Zeitgeist]

show me where steve jobs touched you

[jwstohr]

I want a SUPERDRIVE RAWR!