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Chargebacks...
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I don't see a problem with bitcoin value. Let's say 1 BTC = 1 cent. You just use more of them, to achieve the value needed. However, with actual value, your 2 btcs are worth 5 keys and 1 ref. If you still have the wallet.dat (it survives a simple uninstall ) you can recover them.
Until they are stable on long runs, and a seller masks daily fluctuations as I said before, there is really no problem

Bitcoin won't disappear simply because it's inner value is the 0 fees, 0 chargebacks and total control over your account/wallet.
No one can "freeze" your money, while today paypal and even banks can lock in your money.
It's born for online transactions, and it shines with them.

I am never afraid of chargebacks. Just think about it.

Why paypal should pay someone to bother every single user privacy? Even if it happens, it would only increase the fees.
And even if they do verify, they can't disclose to you the address.

Paypal started with ebay. On ebay, you send physical items, so you already know the address. But sellers are already covered there, because it's enough for them to show a tracking number.
So, when you use it for the aim it was made, both buyer and sellers are covered. They make you pay this through fees, but it's ok in that case because it leaves both minds free from problems.

By using it with tf2 "gift trick" it's only unnatural, a way to try to bypass paypal policy, expecially the seller-pays-fees one.
You lose chargeback protection, because you are not using it the right way.

Now, even if paypal verify address and so on, the scammer just needs to go to police and denounce the stolen card. If someone asks, he will provide a copy of the minutes.
This chargeback can't be stopped even by the "gift trick": the $$ are removed from paypal itself and nothing will stop them to plunder your account, because it's not REALLY yours, it's theirs. Just think about it.

Even if you don't want to use bitcoins, you could ask for a bank transfer, and get full reference of the sender.
You can also use the GPG postal verify I explained before to know the address, and still use paypal. You can send some little thing to that address, and you even have a tracking number to show to paypal, and be covered by official seller protection.

You have many options, so you can say that if you stick with using paypal with tricks, stick on not verifying other's address, you can't blame anyone.

Paypal won't change it's policy because it works well when used as paypal is meant.
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Messages In This Thread
Chargebacks... - by TacosWillEatUs - Mar 04, 2012, 08:04 AM
Chargebacks... - by ScorpionBlues - Mar 04, 2012, 10:20 AM
Chargebacks... - by PanDulce2012 - Mar 04, 2012, 09:53 PM
Chargebacks... - by Dando_Real_ITA - Mar 07, 2012, 09:26 AM
Chargebacks... - by serialjoe - Mar 10, 2012, 04:57 PM
Chargebacks... - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Mar 10, 2012, 05:42 PM
Chargebacks... - by Dando_Real_ITA - Mar 14, 2012, 02:20 PM
Chargebacks... - by eg0tism - Mar 15, 2012, 06:31 AM
Chargebacks... - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Mar 15, 2012, 07:12 AM
Chargebacks... - by Dando_Real_ITA - Mar 17, 2012, 09:32 PM
Chargebacks... - by MikeV - Mar 17, 2012, 09:45 PM
Chargebacks... - by OmegaZero_Alpha - Mar 17, 2012, 09:49 PM
Chargebacks... - by Dando_Real_ITA - Mar 17, 2012, 10:28 PM
Chargebacks... - by Bort - Mar 17, 2012, 10:56 PM
Chargebacks... - by kramurx - Mar 18, 2012, 06:47 AM
Chargebacks... - by Dando_Real_ITA - Mar 18, 2012, 08:23 AM

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