Poll: cp_degrootkeep? - You do not have permission to vote in this poll.
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"As long as we skipped koth_sawmill..."
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Change the rotation? How about this first?
#1

As some regulars on the Valve maps rotation server know, half of the time, the next map 'sucks'. I noticed this trend when heading towards maps like plr_hightower, cp_mountainlab, and ctf_well.

Some people seek alernatives to the reality that these maps bring to their tables. Temporary alternatives like admins changing maps or just leaving the game. But lately, I'm hearing more and more whining about changing the rotation and getting rid of maps in their entirety. I do not wish for this. So, I'm presenting my own idea, concerning the voting system.

The voting system is set up in a simple fashion. The votes are cast once there is less than 330 seconds left on the map. There are two options, skip or play the next map. There are several holes in this system, but I am "butthurt" about one giant abyss in this less-than-impressive implementation of democracy.

My non-personal problem
The map automatically changes after one team wins 4 rounds (on most maps). If rape is commenced on one team, before and after the team scramble, the vote is completely bypassed and people who probably wanted to skip the next map are now suck with (insert name of crap map here). This causes teams to not try and takes away from the gaming experience. (Why are you still reading this?)

My proposed solution
Instead of having the vote become active at only the 5:30 mark. I suggest that the vote also becomes active at the beginning of what could be the last round. This way, the majority of the winning (and/or losing) team(s) doesn't rage at the one non-regular who capped the final point.

Let's stop here... I'm not revising this crap...

Salve! Salve!
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#2

admins changing the map is stupid and has only caused more problems

get on a bad map? have half the server whining and complaining and messaging fusion to come on and do something.

just play it out. half the problem with these maps anyway are the excessive engineers.

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#3

The vote system holds many flaws, the biggest I feel is it uses the number keys to vote. Many times people are pressing those keys already to swap weapons.
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whitefox Wrote:The vote system holds many flaws, the biggest I feel is it uses the number keys to vote. Many times people are pressing those keys already to swap weapons.

There's always !revote
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#5

cp_degrootkeep as well as koth_sawmill, koth/cp_badlands, ctf_doublecross, ctf_2fort etc are all server killers. I don't think the rotation has to change, since the server is based on an all Valve rotation, but I do think now is the time rtv needs to be enabled for all players.
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#6

badlands is a server killer?


what?

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#7

WombRaider Wrote:badlands is a server killer?
Believe it buster.
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#8

Killingblair Wrote:cp_degrootkeep as well as koth_sawmill, koth/cp_badlands, ctf_doublecross, ctf_2fort etc are all server killers. I don't think the rotation has to change, since the server is based on an all Valve rotation, but I do think now is the time rtv needs to be enabled for all players.
Degroot isn't despite the fact Enforcer leaves during it.

But yes to the others.
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Killingblair Wrote:cp_degrootkeep as well as koth_sawmill, koth/cp_badlands, ctf_doublecross, ctf_2fort etc are all server killers. I don't think the rotation has to change, since the server is based on an all Valve rotation, but I do think now is the time rtv needs to be enabled for all players.

Agreed that the rotation needs to be changed up somehow. I have a seething hatred of badlands as it is and playing koth_badlands into "x map" into cp_badlands makes me want to punch a toddler. I enjoy degroot but I think there should be a 15 or so minute timer max.
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WombRaider Wrote:admins changing the map is stupid and has only caused more problems

get on a bad map? have half the server whining and complaining and messaging fusion to come on and do something.

just play it out. half the problem with these maps anyway are the excessive engineers.

Why not just remove the shitty maps, whats so difficult about this??? Seems like a power struggle to me and admins are just being stubborn...btw, I only see admins on for like one map every few days, they never play on the Valve Maps as frequent as the rest of us.
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