[An0m4Ly]

First things first, I highly enjoy playing on the SourceOp server and have been since tf2 came out. Drunken Fool, is a good admin and is readily available should any problematic issues with the server arise. However the reason I'm writing this post is to question the (his) method of how certain things get handled, in this case "kick"&" ban."

Here is how the situation went, were on the third level of Dustbowl on blue side (myself and Sergeant Balls) during the "setup" time. We happened to be on the right side gate of blue spawn, and Drunken Fool is in front of the middle gate. Sergeant Balls chucks a pipe bomb at Drunken Fool through the gate, who also happens to be crouched in front of the middle gate chuckin pipe bombs as well. However Drunken Fools pipe bomb which failed to get though the gate (in an attempt to use the exploit as well) rolled on the floor and killed him.

Following Drunken Fools death he immediately "kick bans" Sergeant Balls (for 5 min.) and replies with " testing new ban system"...My rift is the way he went about the whole situation. First he gave no verbal (or test) warning that shooting pipe's in setup time was a bannable offense, second he was also using the exploit at the time in which he accidently killed himself ("do as i say, not as i do"?). When was this "rule" instated, just then? how are players to know whats a bannable offense? There are no "Rules" on the MOTD (message of the day) on the server when you join. Not once have I seen Drunken Fool kick+ban anybody for doing that. And also kick banning one of the "regulars" which also happens to be #1 on the server.

Lastly, you can argue the fact that im defending an "exploit" which happens to be a valid point, and i have no defense against that. However when your using the exploit, and giving me the "why are you defending an exploit" argument, well, friend, its like "the pot calling the kettle black" its just not fair at all. Above all, i understand its your server and you can manage it anyway you like. But please give me a logical argument and not "this is my server and i run it how i want" cause at the end of the day, its Immaturity and tyrannical.

If i can suggest anything, please revise the methods in which you handle these matters.

[Drunken F00l]

I didn't die by his grenades, someone else did. I had died earlier.

Exploiting is not allowed. The five minute ban is hardly anything to complain about and was, in fact, his warning. The next time I see him doing this, the ban will be significantly longer.

There are no rules on the MOTD because I expect people to behave without me holding their hand and telling them how (also, there is no room and nobody would read it). If you're exploiting map glitches continuously, you're asking for a ban.

I have no idea how the exploit works. The grenade that killed me was one of my attempts trying to figure it out. If somebody wants to private message me how to do it then I might be able to fix it or at least bring it to Valve's attention.

I agree that "this is my server and i run it how i want" is not a good argument, but the whole statement is true.

[An0m4Ly]

You died due to your own pipe bomb, nobody killed you. Sergeant Balls hit you with a pipe this making you weak and the pipe bomb in which you shot and failed to go through killed you.

Temp bans off the gate are admin abuse no matter the time length, as long as ive been playing and myself being an admin of a few servers for a long time have always given verbal warnings. Its the appropriate way of handling things.

"I agree that "this is my server and i run it how i want" is not a good argument, but the whole statement is true."

the above statement proves my point, after the fact that i suggest you review your stance on your methods which are tyrannical and immature. especially that sergeant and about half my team has donated to the server. At the end of the day i hope that others are alerted in a different manner then "kick temp bans"

[Kaylee]

oh, people aren't supposed to do that?

anyway I doubt it's a big deal since df and balls are friends

[Drunken F00l]

Thank you for helping, Kaylee. :?

anyway I doubt it's a big deal since df and balls are friends

Yes, this is kind of why I picked on him.

Who said verbal warnings were a requirement? I really hate when people tell me how I'm supposed to run my server.

If I could take it back, I would. I just don't understand why you're getting all butt-hurt over a five minute ban.

[An0m4Ly]

ahh forget it...its ur server and you run it like you want, i dont mean any disrespect by it, its just the way things are.

[Retribution]

and technically DF is like god when you play the SOP servers, he pays for the server(used to anyways), he created SOP plugin, and is the ultimate authority, ME MAKES THE RULES, so you can't really argue with him
on the other hand, DF you really should stat all the rules where there easy to find so people know what they are, hell i been here 2 years and i'm still not too sure myself :roll:

[Kaylee]

yeah I think he was just picking on him cause they're friends, I don't think he'd do that without warning to just anyone, especially when it's something a lot of people do

[OmegaZero_Alpha]

You should see my reign of [eX] servers, I ban people for doing litterally nothing. (the reason was 1, but the time was set to "im bored", so it permabanned him.)

For instance, I declared that I would ban random people. For the next hour I got people to admit they were random and then banned them. (5 minutes for gullibility)

Another instance, I banned a guy for eating over the mic. (30 minute ban "go be fat somewhere else")

One other time I banned a guy for having a name that was hard to kick. If I have to use STATUS in console and kick you by your steamID, you get the day off. (1440 minute ban "making your name in f@gg0t33 characters is lame")

I also have a habit of kicking entire teams when im losing a sudden death... maybe im old fashioned like that.

[Retribution]

and know we know why theres like 14 eX servers and there ususaly empty :roll: