Posts: 2,845
	Threads: 103
	Joined: Nov 13, 2009
	
		
	
 
	
	
		No left 4 dead 2 was a shameless clone of left 4 dead.(which I have said multiple times). And world of warcraft uses the same backgrounds and mechanics over and over again. Also these are sequels meaning they are very likely to follow the same design. It's the new things you bring to the table that separates them.
	
	
	
I was a commando you know.
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 4,891
	Threads: 253
	Joined: Jan 02, 2005
	
		
	
 
	
	
		Snarf Wrote:No left 4 dead 2 was a shameless clone of left 4 dead.(which I have said multiple times). And world of warcraft uses the same backgrounds and mechanics over and over again. Also these are sequels meaning they are very likely to follow the same design. Genre decides the overall design of the game as a whole which covers a lot more than the ambiance.
Which doesn't address the point that ambiance =/= genre.
And the only real thing that separates the two 'genres' survival horror and adventure are ambiance.
Therefore 'survival horror' isn't a real genre.
	
 
	
	
/sarcasm
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 2,845
	Threads: 103
	Joined: Nov 13, 2009
	
		
	
 
	
	
		Sure if you want to throw creativity, style and pretty much everything that makes a game unique out the window. All of which you probably won't pickup on a game you haven't paid any mind to. Setting decides the overall feel of anything. It's also a sub genre so there are going to be a lot of similarities, this is again saying fps a is the same as fps b because it's an fps.
	
	
	
I was a commando you know.
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 4,891
	Threads: 253
	Joined: Jan 02, 2005
	
		
	
 
	
	
		Snarf Wrote:Sure if you want to throw creativity, style and pretty much everything that makes a game unique out the window. All of which you probably won't pickup on a game you haven't paid any mind to.
You are talking about style and creativity on Penumbra?
Play a real adventure game like Grim Fandango or the Monkey Island series if you want style and creativity.
	
 
	
	
/sarcasm
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 2,845
	Threads: 103
	Joined: Nov 13, 2009
	
		
	
 
	
	
		OmegaZero_Alpha Wrote:Penumbra?
Amnesia, edited post btw. Also comparing any adventure game to those two isn't even fair.
	
 
	
	
I was a commando you know.
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 4,891
	Threads: 253
	Joined: Jan 02, 2005
	
		
	
 
	
	
		The fact remains that in nine cases out of ten they still take a mediocre adventure game and put scary imigary everywhere to try and pass it off as good.
I couldn't ever stand a survival horror game that couldn't stand on its own as a normal adventure game.
	
	
	
/sarcasm
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 2,845
	Threads: 103
	Joined: Nov 13, 2009
	
		
	
 
	
	
		OmegaZero_Alpha Wrote:I couldn't ever stand a survival horror game that couldn't stand on its own as a normal adventure game.
It's not fucking grim fandango but it's not bad imo. Either way you couldn't judge this without playing it or at least watching some gameplay and I do believe there's a demo if you aren't willing to simply pirate.(and it's still more about good immersion and horror than anything else).
	
 
	
	
I was a commando you know.
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 4,891
	Threads: 253
	Joined: Jan 02, 2005
	
		
	
 
	
	
		Snarf Wrote:OmegaZero_Alpha Wrote:I couldn't ever stand a survival horror game that couldn't stand on its own as a normal adventure game.
It's not fucking grim fandango but it's not bad imo. Either way you couldn't judge this without playing it or at least watching some gameplay and I do believe there's a demo if you aren't willing to simply pirate.(and it's still more about good immersion and horror than anything else).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXyel4FXaOk
The gameplay is pretty lulzy.
	
 
	
	
/sarcasm
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 1,510
	Threads: 76
	Joined: Jan 15, 2009
	
		
	
 
	
	
		do you actually get feelings of "uneasiness" or get scared when you play video games or watch movies?
i mean, i jump like any other person when some shit jumps out at you, and i cringe whenever i see two dudes going at it, but i've yet to be scared or shocked by any game or movie
	
	
	
The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State.
 
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 2,845
	Threads: 103
	Joined: Nov 13, 2009
	
		
	
 
	
	
		OmegaZero_Alpha Wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXyel4FXaOk
The gameplay is pretty lulzy.
This
Thread
Is
About
Amnesia
Penumbra
Is
A
Different
Game
Also it depends entirely on the game for me, amnesia has yet to really scare me but it's still unsettling. Which is something considering most "horror" games don't even get that far
	
 
	
	
I was a commando you know.